Re:“Computers enable fantasies” – the continued relevance of...
by CatWChainsaw on Friday January 27, 2023 @04:58PM
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We need more people talking about this seriously now, because we are on a precipice of some sort.
Re:“Computers enable fantasies” – the continued relevance of...
by cmrdporcupine on Friday January 27, 2023 @05:17PM
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I feel like people have never been not talking about it. I probably should have tossed in a reference to Heidegger & his focus on 'instrumentality' etc, too.
But the thing is.. how do they say it? "Money talks, bullshit walks?"
People follow what fills their stomach. And mechanization/automation/computation, it does that in spades. I mean... I dropped out of my philosophy major decades ago to go do the More Fun To Compute thing... My bank account shows it.
In any case... the first major uses of computers were for war. The next, for automation in commerce and finance. That's what computers are really for.
One thing I have thought about over the years more and more, in this general vein is that it is sometimes to think about "computing technology" as being an evolution less as a specific thing itself and more of a broader "automation technology" which emerges most dramatically with the arrival of the industrial revolution (though there were aspects of it before that.)
Thinking with a kind of materialist analysis, we can see computing but even (more broadly) higher level mathematics, logic, etc. as an intellectual effort to chip away at labour costs & the percentage of human effort involved in production/work/business. It's a deeply obscured profit motive.
The ideological blindness described in this article I think fits neatly into that: we are all so enamoured with this computing thing, this process, the puzzle and the end results that we often fail to see that it is not some magical force operating under its own motive, with its own natural inevitable destination and we often do not see that there's likely a deeper force underlying all of this... human efforts, labour, driven by profit and hunger.
Ultimately computing technology is capitalist automation technology. It reflects the needs of the capitalist market system, and the drive to efficiency that the market economy requires. The 'magic' we seem to pepper overtop is our own flourish.
(Maybe when I'm finally done with this software engineering career that has eaten my life, I will go back and finish my philosophy degree I walked away from in the 90s... and then I will write more coherently about this)