Re:An AI robot lawyer was set to argue in court. Real lawyer...
by xienze on Thursday January 26, 2023 @05:48AM
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> the state can't just let ordinary folk hang themselves with cheap half-baked "solutions".
Why hasn't the practice of self-representation been banned then? It's almost without exception a surefire way to hang oneself in a court room.
Re:An AI robot lawyer was set to argue in court. Real lawyer...
by notahacker on Thursday January 26, 2023 @05:55AM
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Self representation doesn't involve some mountebank selling you a "robot lawyer that will get you off your parking ticket" solution
Re:An AI robot lawyer was set to argue in court. Real lawyer...
by xienze on Thursday January 26, 2023 @06:15AM
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So what if I just decided of my own accord to use ChatGPT and train it myself? Or someone on GitHub made a fully trained version of it available in a Docker container, for free?
Re:An AI robot lawyer was set to argue in court. Real lawyer...
by notahacker on Thursday January 26, 2023 @06:45AM
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Then nobody would issue legal threats to you for selling "Robot Lawyer" services.
But you probably wouldn't get permission to use Google Glass in the courtroom either, so you'd have to commit your legal arguments to memory as well as hoping the AI hadn't ingested too much "freeman of the land" nonsense...
Re:An AI robot lawyer was set to argue in court. Real lawyer...
by rkachowski on Thursday January 26, 2023 @07:31AM
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What's the difference between self representation and practicing law without a license - is there an exemption for unlicensed practitioners when they are performing on their own behalf, or this is a distinct category somehow?
Re:An AI robot lawyer was set to argue in court. Real lawyer...
by ActorNightly on Friday January 27, 2023 @03:10PM
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Think of chatgpt as a search engine. Does it matter if you use a search engine before the trial, and perhaps bringing a big ass binder to the court with all possible responses, or you do it during the trial?
And any lawyer that can go against gpt3 and win will be a net benefit to the whole law community, showing that lawyers are worth the money.
It's not equivalent at all. ChatGPT and DaVinci have not "studied the law" in the same way as any human would.
> If law firms believed it was bullshit, they would just put a very good attorney on that case and disprove it. Barring it from entry with threat of jailtime pretty much proves that they are full of shit and they know it.
This is a traffic ticket case. He's not up against Sullivan & Cromwell, he's up against some local prosecutor. I'm sure if some white shoe law firm were being paid hundreds of thousands to defend a case against a guy using ChatGPT, they'd be fine with it.
Even though we have an adversarial system, the state can't just let ordinary folk hang themselves with cheap half-baked "solutions". It would be unjust/bad press (delete as appropriate to your level of cynicism). That's why we have licensing requirements, etc.