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Re:In Their 20s, Struggling to Save and Tired of Being Lectu... by kelnos on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @03:42PM (#34523897)
> Also, what is your proposed solution here? To stop having social workers?

Training for a job that pays below what you need to live comfortably is a choice. You may feel passionate enough about that job that you are willing to accept the consequences of a low salary. If you are not, then you should not train to do that job.

I do sympathize, as it's essentially impossible for a 16- or 17-year-old to fully understand the lifetime ramifications of the profession they're about to choose.

But if people stopped making dangerous financial compromises to take jobs they are passionate about, then those jobs will either have to get funded more such that the salaries go up, or yes, they'll cease to exist.

I think social work is a job that's extremely valuable to society, so I would hope that, in the face of a shortage (due to people not wanting to take the job because of low pay), legislatures and whatnot would vote to fund it more. But that's up to communities to decide.

> Saving $200 a month is basically nothing, especially in NYC.

The woman who saves $200/mo (the article actually says $200-$300/mo, so it's a bit better, even) lives in Bensenville, Illinois.

Re:In Their 20s, Struggling to Save and Tired of Being Lectu... by feet on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @04:20PM (#34524347)
I think the pertinent question is do we just stop having social workers?

They provide essential services, you're focusing too much on the choice to do something that pays a lot vs choice to do something you're passionate about

How about the choice to do something that simply needs to be done?

Re:In Their 20s, Struggling to Save and Tired of Being Lectu... by _aavaa_ on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @05:12PM (#34524882)
Under the current circumstances, if someone chooses to do a job because they find it socially important then they won’t have much leverage to bargain for better pay.

If there are people will to do your job for the amount of money you find unacceptable, you will have a hard time bargaining for more money.

We, the people who pay for social worker through taxes, must be willing to pay them more. AND the social workers must be willing to walk away if their own needs aren’t being met.

Re:In Their 20s, Struggling to Save and Tired of Being Lectu... by tablespoon on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @05:52PM (#34525294)
> But if people stopped making dangerous financial compromises to take jobs they are passionate about, then those jobs will either have to get funded more such that the salaries go up, or yes, they'll cease to exist.

If a "passion" is common enough, it will get systematically exploited by employers.

Re:In Their 20s, Struggling to Save and Tired of Being Lectu... by david38 on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @06:03PM (#34525402)
How is it exploitation to pay market wage if it’s well above minimum wage?
Re:In Their 20s, Struggling to Save and Tired of Being Lectu... by hdctambien on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @06:09PM (#34525458)
Because minimum wage is well below what it should be if you want to consider it as the line for what is and isn't exploitive.
Re:In Their 20s, Struggling to Save and Tired of Being Lectu... by quags on Thursday January 26, 2023 @07:05AM (#34530675)
Like any industry social work has a ladder and options including getting licensed as an lcsw and doing more profitable private therapy or even being head of hospital departments or other administration tasks. You certainly have the lower paying end as well but no it’s not a poverty guarantee.
Re:In Their 20s, Struggling to Save and Tired of Being Lectu... by beej71 on Thursday January 26, 2023 @03:47PM (#34538589)
> Training for a job that pays below what you need to live comfortably is a choice. You may feel passionate enough about that job that you are willing to accept the consequences of a low salary. If you are not, then you should not train to do that job.

My problem with this is that there are a lot of jobs in the US that are important (physical therapists, speech language pathologists, some nursing positions, pharmacy techs, educators) that are getting to be not worth paying for the training. You don't make enough to money to pay it back.

And I want people to choose to do those jobs. :)