Re:How the Xbox 360 knows if your hard-drive is genuine
by Jerrrry on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @05:12PM
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> I do think that in 2005 they were way, way ahead of keeping their console "secure" according to their threat model.
I agree, see my other comment re: KV.bin
They built the x360 with layers, upon layers, like an onion.
Two exploits (JTAG and RGH), and a few forever-unspeakable social engineering incidents aside, they did great work.
Until Mw2 came out in 2011.
Re:How the Xbox 360 knows if your hard-drive is genuine
by fomine3 on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @07:18PM
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Some Xbox hackers were arrested but it's fair. Some people stole hardware. This is interesting read. https://darknetdiaries.com/transcript/45/
Re:How the Xbox 360 knows if your hard-drive is genuine
by fps-hero on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @07:19AM
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An hour later, wow. That podcast is mesmerising. That’s absolutely incredible what they were up to. Thanks for the share, on to part two now.
Re:How the Xbox 360 knows if your hard-drive is genuine
by Jerrrry on Thursday January 26, 2023 @07:47PM
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It's 95% accurate. The remaining 5% is to hide the identity of Person A.
I would consider contributing to a third episode with a new generation of stories/correbance/trivia, but with the amount of contribution from the feds to correct the record, I feel it would be unwise.
> Make no mistake, MS and Xbox still hate us.
I should point out that I was not suggesting there was a good relationship between console hackers and Microsoft. Quote from me again:
> respect towards the ingenuity of console hackers
I did not say they had respect for the people, or that what they were doing was good, or anything like that. I'm claiming that from a security standpoint, they took the threat very seriously.
Microsoft legally bullying people is bad, but it's nothing new from Microsoft. Hell, it's nothing new from the console industry either. I actually was not aware of Microsoft putting anyone in jail over the Xbox homebrew/modding scene, but it does not surprise me. I remember what happened with Sony and Geohotz.
Still, from a sterile, technical point of view, I do think that in 2005 they were way, way ahead of keeping their console "secure" according to their threat model. I am never going to be particularly fond of a threat model where the adversary is the customer, but that's not really the point.