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Re:Launch HN: Matano (YC W23) – Open-Source Security Lake Pl... by mox1 on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @03:16PM (#34509607)
Splunk is HEAVILY pushing their SaaS offering at the moment. They are the most obnoxious vendor we currently deal with.

We are fine on prem, pay big $$ license fees, but not enough. They want that sweet SaaS revenue.

I would be wary of pushing this, being a non-SaaS platform could be an advantage here.

Re:Launch HN: Matano (YC W23) – Open-Source Security Lake Pl... by feanaro on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @05:55PM (#34511806)
Indeed, no more SaaS. I've had enough of this cloud nonsense already.
Re:Launch HN: Matano (YC W23) – Open-Source Security Lake Pl... by baetylus on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @12:25AM (#34514734)
Say more? Are you tired of it personally or is it troublesome at work?
Re:Launch HN: Matano (YC W23) – Open-Source Security Lake Pl... by tomhallett on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @08:43AM (#34518121)
I’m assuming the difference is: “big $$ license fees” for on-prem is $X a year, while “sweet saas revenue” is $A a year, $B per user, $C for compute, $D for storage, and $E for requests.

As a large company, what are the things you are more than happy to pay for with on-prem?

The reason I’m asking: this feels like the largest issue with cloud saas, which is one of the more popular implementations of open-core for B2B. Not saying Splunk is open-core, but it’s related to above/dbt cloud discussion.

Enterprise customers have the highest propensity to pay, but don’t need or want their cloud offering.

Mid-tier customers actually prefer a managed service by their cloud provider, aws/gcp/azure, because it strikes a balance between easy AND it works within their vpc/iam/devops. But this cuts off open-core companies main revenue, so they start making ELv2 licenses (elastic, airbyte, etc) which makes things harder on mid-tier.

Small customers are the ones who love saas the most, but have the least ability to pay, need simpler tools over complex ones, and will probably grow out of being a customer…

I’m curious if there are any companies which are: source code available, commercial license, allow you to fork/modify the source code, only offer on-prem (no cloud saas offering), want the mega-clouds to offer a managed service. BUT the commercial license requires any companies over 250 employees or $X revenue (docker desktop style) to pay a yearly license fee.