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Re:NYC Jails Want to Ban Physical Mail, Then Privatize Scann... by afarrell on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @01:22PM (#34507687)
> incentivizing prisons to actually rehabilitate

Parenting is hard. Parenting someone who is already an adult is harder still. Beyond incentives, they might not have the resources to rehabilitate the prisoners.

Re:NYC Jails Want to Ban Physical Mail, Then Privatize Scann... by Majestic121 on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @01:25PM (#34507729)
The resource they are given are provided by society, it's up to society to decide how to allocate them.

If we realize that it's barely more expensive or even cheaper in the long run to rehabilitate instead of punishing purely, we can decide to allocate more resources to rehabilitation (at least in theory)

Re:NYC Jails Want to Ban Physical Mail, Then Privatize Scann... by wefarrell on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @02:54PM (#34509253)
They're spending over half a million dollars a year to house prisoners[0]. The resources are there but they're not using them for rehabilitation.

[0] https://comptroller.nyc.gov/newsroom/comptroller-stringer-co...

Re:NYC Jails Want to Ban Physical Mail, Then Privatize Scann... by afarrell on Monday January 30, 2023 @08:41PM (#34589709)
Part of the problem is that caring for someone requires their cooperation. Caring for the least cooperative people requires even more cooperation.
Re:NYC Jails Want to Ban Physical Mail, Then Privatize Scann... by nobody9999 on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @04:37PM (#34510815)
>Parenting is hard. Parenting someone who is already an adult is harder still. Beyond incentives, they might not have the resources to rehabilitate the prisoners.

The social and economic benefits of rehabilitation far outweigh any costs incurred in rehabilitating folks.

Communities would be wealthier and safer if we didn't penalize convicted persons for the rest of their lives, by denying them jobs, housing and access to the financial system.

And since we do penalize folks that way, is it any wonder they turn to more potentially lucrative illegal pursuits?

And the economic argument is even stronger than the social argument. All those folks could learn skills and provide boosts to local economies if they were allowed to get decent jobs. That would improve overall GDP and provide a strong incentive for convicted felons to walk the straight and narrow.

Is it necessarily easy? No. But it makes societal and economic sense.

Re:NYC Jails Want to Ban Physical Mail, Then Privatize Scann... by afarrell on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @07:28PM (#34512654)
Right. It also requires overcoming problems of trust and trustworthiness.

Doing the work to restore that trust is the work of justice.