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Re:Is tipping getting out of control? Many consumers say yes by noduerme on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @07:36AM (#34502814)
I think it's the customer's responsibility to know whether the person directly in front of them is being paid, or relying on the customer to pay. If you go into a strip club in whatever country you are in, do you expect to get a lap dance without tipping the girl? Because she's in the union or being paid by the strip club? Probably not. In some states in America, like New York, waiters are basically like strippers. If you go there, you should understand that the service costs extra. You wouldn't go into a Buddhist temple in Thailand and not leave some change at the door. You wouldn't go climb Mt Everest and not give a few dollars to the sherpa who carried your bag. So don't go to a restaurant in New York City and screw the wait staff. Budget it into your travels. This is a plain rule for traveling anywhere.
Re:Is tipping getting out of control? Many consumers say yes by franciscop on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @08:31AM (#34503298)
> I think it's the customer's responsibility to know whether the person directly in front of them is being paid, or relying on the customer to pay.

I disagree. I've never been to a strip club (another very foreign concept for me lol) but if I ever went to a establishment, I expect to pay the prices the store asks me to pay, or the waiter asking to pay. Do you also "tip" the police? It sounds as ridiculous as that for a foreigner.

> You wouldn't go into a Buddhist temple in Thailand and not leave some change at the door.

I have been to Buddhist temples in Thailand, Vietnam, Japan, etc. and not left change at the door, what are you talking about? That's definitely not normal. I HAVE paid for tickets to enter temples, and bought some of the trinkets they sell, but unless explicitly told so (like in the USA) I wouldn't expect to be making significant donations for the conservation and practice of the temple. I expect religious entities to be funded by either money from their religious constituents, from the gvmt, or sell things, and that's how it seems to work in most of the world without issue.

Re:Is tipping getting out of control? Many consumers say yes by noduerme on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @08:36AM (#34503349)
Did you ever go to a prostitute? Do you expect her to be paid by the establishment?

You cannot simply say that because you are ignorant of the customs in some place, or you would never go to such a place, that people should not have to learn and abide by the customs if they do go to them.

As with prosties, so with New York restaurants.

As far as leaving coins outside temples... perhaps it was a local contribution thing, but it seemed like the right thing to do.

Re:Is tipping getting out of control? Many consumers say yes by Adverblessly on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @09:04AM (#34503640)
> Did you ever go to a prostitute? Do you expect her to be paid by the establishment?

I haven't, but if you asked me if I think service workers should be paid more like regular salaried workers or more like prostitutes, I'd pick the former over the latter.

Re:Is tipping getting out of control? Many consumers say yes by noduerme on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @12:20PM (#34506715)
Great answer. I don't know if I agree, as I always liked the freedom of gig work. Plus not knowing whether or not you'll get tipped well makes a job more interesting.