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Re:The Disappearance of the Ashtray by Kiro on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @03:37AM (#34501077)
How is it a waste of time? It has done wonders in Sweden.
Re:The Disappearance of the Ashtray by LtWorf on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @05:42PM (#34511646)
Just because they risk the alcool license.

In the bus stops nobody cares. In general, smokers aren't the most empathetic kind of people.

Re:The Disappearance of the Ashtray by ornornor on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @03:54AM (#34516012)
So why couldn’t this be done outside Sweden? AFAIK most countries require licensing for selling alcohol which some authority overviews and can withdraw when some laws are broken (serving alcohol to minors etc). Why wouldn’t it be possible to also lose your license if you allow smoking where it’s not permitted?
Re:The Disappearance of the Ashtray by nibbleshifter on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @05:02AM (#34516521)
> Why wouldn’t it be possible to also lose your license if you allow smoking where it’s not permitted?

This already happens to the extent that it is enforceable.

If a venue allow smoking inside where not permitted, or in an area deemed 'inside' (too sheltered, whatever), the venue gets fined or can have its licence suspended or even fully withdrawn.

The law also makes some provision for common sense.

The venues ability to control smoking ends at the boundary (the door). So the venue isn't responsible if someone smokes outside the door on the footpath - its not their problem.

Designating the outdoor areas as smoking areas is an acceptable compromise. Venues lacking in smoking areas tend to be unviable financially.