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Re:‘Sensational’ Runestone Discovered in Norway May Be the W... by crabbycarrot on Monday January 23, 2023 @06:03PM (#34496364)
This sounds like "edenics" (as in garden of Eden), which posits that there was original language (probably Hebrew) from which all languages descend. Other popular "original" languages are Tamil, Sanskrit, Basque, or whatever language some nationalist crackpot decides they want to promote. It's totally disconnected from reality. Here's a Language Log post on it: http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/005278.h...
Re:‘Sensational’ Runestone Discovered in Norway May Be the W... by msrenee on Monday January 23, 2023 @06:15PM (#34496472)
This is super reminiscent to me of the arguments you see claiming Tamil is the oldest language. It's just not based on sound evidence or reasoning.
Re:‘Sensational’ Runestone Discovered in Norway May Be the W... by moloch-hai on Monday January 23, 2023 @10:17PM (#34498692)
Nothing whatsoever to do with edenics, or any notion of "original" language. Suggesting it is hostile and divisive.

If runes can be derived from italic or greek letterforms, they can also be derived from any others that could plausibly have reached there. (Thus, not Korean.) Carthaginians famously sailed far and wide. So it is a legitimate question to ask--what evidence is there?--for each, with no legitimate reason to exclude any plausible possibility from consideration. Refusing to include semitic alphabets among candidates (why?) is the crackpot position.

If you insist (why?) that semitic alphabets can have made no contribution, and you are correct, then the evidence will show that, and you have nothing to fear. So the only reason to object is that you fear the evidence will contradict your belief. But that is the best reason to check.

Re:‘Sensational’ Runestone Discovered in Norway May Be the W... by bazoom42 on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @06:04AM (#34502131)
> If you insist (why?) that semitic alphabets can have made no contribution, and you are correct, then the evidence will show that

How could evidence show lack of contribution? You can’t prove a negative like that. You can’t prove lack of influence from Korean or ancient aliens either.

Re:‘Sensational’ Runestone Discovered in Norway May Be the W... by moloch-hai on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @06:12AM (#34502179)
Then what are you worried about?
Re:‘Sensational’ Runestone Discovered in Norway May Be the W... by bazoom42 on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @07:20AM (#34502692)
What are you referring to?
Re:‘Sensational’ Runestone Discovered in Norway May Be the W... by moloch-hai on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @10:56AM (#34505208)
If you are certain that comparing the oldest runes to semitic glyphs won't show up a closer match than more recent runes do, what is wrong with comparing them, or talking about comparing them? The only possible objection is that you don't like what might come from it.
Re:‘Sensational’ Runestone Discovered in Norway May Be the W... by _a_a_a_ on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @11:27AM (#34505791)
They've been compared and nothing of note was found. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34494938
Re:‘Sensational’ Runestone Discovered in Norway May Be the W... by moloch-hai on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @02:09PM (#34508499)
That work was all done without this new evidence. New evidence might reinforce old conclusions, or undermine them. Nobody knows without the work having been done.
Re:‘Sensational’ Runestone Discovered in Norway May Be the W... by _a_a_a_ on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @02:41PM (#34509062)
What new evidence.
Re:‘Sensational’ Runestone Discovered in Norway May Be the W... by moloch-hai on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @07:41PM (#34512756)
It is called TFA, around here. I have copied the link for your convenience.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/sensational-runest...

Re:‘Sensational’ Runestone Discovered in Norway May Be the W... by bazoom42 on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @02:11PM (#34508527)
Did you mean to reply to somone else? I have not objected to comparing anything.
Re:‘Sensational’ Runestone Discovered in Norway May Be the W... by moloch-hai on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @07:47PM (#34512808)
Comparing scripts is the only way to identify similarities and differences. We can be confident Korean is not an influence just on geographic grounds, but all Mediterranean scripts are in play, because whoever started using runes could have been exposed to any or all of them.

You may say nobody can prove a negative, but cocksure deniers are fairly swarming out of the woodwork, here.

Re:‘Sensational’ Runestone Discovered in Norway May Be the W... by bazoom42 on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @05:20AM (#34516621)
> deniers are fairly swarming out of the woodwork, here

You seem to be very upset about something, but it is not really clear what.

“Deniers” is usually used about people who deny evidence, but this does not seem to be the case here.