'A complete failure' Japan's 'fantasy' hydrogen strategy does nothing

Re:'A complete failure' Japan's 'fantasy' hydrogen strategy ... by TheRealPomax on Monday January 23, 2023 @10:52AM (#34490279)

On a technical note, it's still an ICE. And Toyota's absolutely trying to show that it can actually be pretty much the same ICE but reinforced to deal with the much higher pressures from having to work with compressed hydrogen. But, while there is still internal combustion happening the major difference is that a hydrogen ICE produces heat and mostly water, rather than heat and mostly CO2 (). You just can't go as far on hydrogen mostly because the amount of dead weight required for hydrogen is so much higher than for fossil or electric.

) With the usual caveat that of the hydrogen product itself is currently not green, but as always, putting all the pollution in one spot, at scale, means far less pollution per car than if every car's running its own fossil furnace

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Re:'A complete failure' Japan's 'fantasy' hydrogen strategy ... by shagie on Monday January 23, 2023 @11:49AM (#34491340)

For Toyota Mirai - the https://www.toyota.com/mirai/

Is it an internal combustion engine? https://youtu.be/qWMqZgiFhQY

This isn't a one off "hey we can do it" as a proof of concept for a race but an actual production car that you can buy.

> You just can't go as far on hydrogen mostly because the amount of dead weight required for hydrogen is so much higher than for fossil or electric.

To which https://www.toyota.com/mirai/2023/mirai-features/performance...

> Up to 402-Mile Range

> When fully fueled with hydrogen, the 2023 Mirai XLE has an impressive manufacturer-estimated 402-mile driving range rating * and the 2023 Mirai Limited has a 357-mile driving range rating.

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