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Re:Japan was the future but it's stuck in the past by smcl on Sunday January 22, 2023 @07:00PM (#34483752)
Ah yes, "Disneyland with the Death Penalty". I'm not sure you understand the dynamic that created Singapore, or appreciate the relatively authoritarian measures that ensure that it doesn't become a "filthy cit[y] with piss and feces everywhere, drugs openly being used in public homeless tent cities, and casual shoplifting not only tolerated but actually celebrated". I'd like to know which city you're referring to, I've slummed it in the worst of European cities and I haven't seen anything close to this. It sounds like the right-wing characterisation of San Francisco, though. So if it is SF, I'd like to ask you: what policies specifically Singapore institutes that San Francisco (or the place you're thinking of) don't?
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Re:Japan was the future but it's stuck in the past by nemo44x on Sunday January 22, 2023 @08:36PM (#34484390)
The first step to recovery is to leave the denial phase and admit there’s a problem and it should be addressed. Many American cities and many exurban/rural towns (right-wing country!) have massive issues. They are filthy, violent, drug addicted, and mismanaged.

Let me put it to you this way. In the USA and much of Europe (less so in Europe) there are large swaths of cities in particular where you wouldn’t go. Because it’s too dangerous.

This doesn’t really exist in Singapore, etc. We just assume this is normal and unavoidable but it’s not. You don’t have to “know where you are”.

Would you be fine with me picking any place in Chicago or SF and drop you off in it?

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Re:Japan was the future but it's stuck in the past by tptacek on Sunday January 22, 2023 @10:26PM (#34485124)
This page will generate a set of random addresses in Chicago. How many times do you have to reload it before you get an address that would be tricky to handle?

https://il.postcodebase.com/random_address_city/CHICAGO

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Re:Japan was the future but it's stuck in the past by nemo44x on Monday January 23, 2023 @07:23AM (#34487991)
The first address was:

5326 S CALUMET AVE CHICAGO IL 60615-4818 USA

Which is in an area named “Washington Park”. The crime rates are here:

https://www.niche.com/places-to-live/n/washington-park-chica...

It’s no place I’d ever want to be. I feel bad for the hood people that have to live there. Their government has failed to do the 1 thing it ultimately is supposed to do which is protect them.

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Re:Japan was the future but it's stuck in the past by tptacek on Monday January 23, 2023 @09:38AM (#34489236)
You realize you just picked a point that is a 10 minute walk across a park to the University of Chicago, and a 5 minute walk to a police station, right? The park is full of UChicago joggers. So, I mean, watch out for that, I guess.
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