Re:Japan was the future but it's stuck in the past
by asveikau on Sunday January 22, 2023 @12:09PM
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You're saying that in states with a higher gun ownership rate, there are few (per capita, I hope you mean) gun related homicides. Specifically comparing US states, not the US to another country.
But 100% of gun related homicide happens with a gun. I had a funny read of your comment, perhaps you think those happen with "borrowed" guns ... If they only owned those guns outright, they could benefit from your statistic.
Re:Japan was the future but it's stuck in the past
by lliamander on Sunday January 22, 2023 @12:22PM
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Sure if guns didn't exist, we wouldn't have gun violence. The question is: given that we have guns, what is the right form of regulation that would lead to better public safety overall? After all, there is meaningful evidence that guns are often used (even just presenting the gun, not actually firing it) for legitimate self-defense purposes.
I said nothing about borrowed guns. To my knowledge, most of those homicides are done with stolen handguns, and are used by people involved in organized crime in the most highly gun-restricted cities in the nation.
Re:Japan was the future but it's stuck in the past
by asveikau on Sunday January 22, 2023 @12:24PM
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By the way, some googling on your claim found this as a first hit.
https://www.newswise.com/politics/gun-ownership-and-homicide...
"... [A] 1-per-cent increase in the rate of ownership is associated with a 1-per-cent increase in the rate of homicide by gun, which is three times higher than the previous studies had estimated,” Chalak explained.
Re:Japan was the future but it's stuck in the past
by lliamander on Sunday January 22, 2023 @12:32PM
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There are lots of studies that come down on both sides of the issue. I'll have to check that one out, but experience suggests this one will have methodological issues.
We are happy to talk about the statistics, they just don't tell the story you want to tell.