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Re:‘Assassinated in cold blood’: activist killed protesting ... by gruez on Saturday January 21, 2023 @06:52PM (#34472288)
Title: ‘Assassinated in cold blood’: activist killed protesting Georgia’s ‘Cop City’

Reality: Activist was "protesting" (ie. camping out) at the future site of a police training facility, cops arrived to kick them out, and there was a shoot-out that resulted in the activist being shot dead and a cop being injured.

I'm not sure how the title got past the editors, considering how misleading it is. It's technically true that the "assassinated in cold blood" part was a quote, but presenting it at face value, when there's little evidence of wrongdoing by the cops is wholly irresponsible for a seemingly reputable publication like the guardian. A much better headline would be "activist killed in shootout with police", or even "‘Assassinated in cold blood’, Mother claims: activist killed protesting Georgia’s ‘Cop City’"

Also, I noticed the article was also exceedingly skeptical about the state's version of events:

>Officials say Manuel shot first at a state trooper “without warning” and an officer or officers returned fire, but they have produced no evidence for the claim. The trooper was described as stable and in hospital Thursday.

but the press release have since provided additional details to support the state's version of events

>Forensic ballistic analysis has confirmed that the projectile recovered from the trooper’s wound matches Teran’s handgun.

But I'll let that slide given that the update came on January 20th, and the article was published early January 21th at 5am.

Re:‘Assassinated in cold blood’: activist killed protesting ... by woodruffw on Saturday January 21, 2023 @06:57PM (#34472340)
> but the press release have since provided additional details to support the state's version of events

Except that it doesn't: the fact that a cop was shot doesn't imply that Teran shot first. In terms of evidence of that specific claim, the evidence is exactly as it stood at the time of publication (and at the time of me writing this.)

Re:‘Assassinated in cold blood’: activist killed protesting ... by mbrameld on Saturday January 21, 2023 @07:12PM (#34472475)
First, they say the analysis confirms the bullet "matched" Teran's handgun, not that the analysis confirmed the bullet was fired from the handgun. This analysis might have stopped after comparing the caliber.

Second, https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-field-of-fire...

Re:‘Assassinated in cold blood’: activist killed protesting ... by amalgamated_inc on Saturday January 21, 2023 @08:03PM (#34472883)
Yea AFAIK the whole "bullet gun fingerprint" idea is total bunk. You cannot tell if a specific bullet was fired from a specific gun.
Re:‘Assassinated in cold blood’: activist killed protesting ... by thrill on Saturday January 21, 2023 @08:54PM (#34473292)
Yeah ... no.
Re:‘Assassinated in cold blood’: activist killed protesting ... by amalgamated_inc on Saturday January 21, 2023 @10:05PM (#34473801)
Are you saying this is possible?
Re:‘Assassinated in cold blood’: activist killed protesting ... by panarky on Friday January 27, 2023 @12:12PM (#34548595)
"Forensic ballistic analysis" that concludes the bullet was 9mm caliber proves precisely nothing when the vast majority of handguns are 9mm, including those fired by police at the scene.

Note the distinct absence of any evidence that protesters fired at police. The police have access to hundreds of cameras at the scene, from bodycams to professional videographers on police payroll, to drones and aircraft.

If there was evidence that protesters fired at police, you can bet the police would be publishing it.

Decent probability this was friendly fire.

Re:‘Assassinated in cold blood’: activist killed protesting ... by xyzzyz on Saturday January 21, 2023 @06:55PM (#34472317)
> I'm not sure how the title got past the editors, considering how misleading it is.

The editors of The Guardian want their readers misled. This is very deliberate. Everything the article says will be true if taken literally, except the quotes of interviewed people, which will often be lies. The crucial facts to understanding what happened will be either completely omitted (omission of facts is not a falsehood), or delegated to second half of of the article, and even then, it will typically be in vague, unclear terms. This is how media operates today, and it shouldn’t be surprising that the trust in media is collapsing across the board.

Re:‘Assassinated in cold blood’: activist killed protesting ... by acheron on Saturday January 21, 2023 @07:53PM (#34472801)
“Seemingly reputable publication like the guardian”

Ha. No. Now realize that every other article in the Guardian is just as deliberately misleading.

Re:‘Assassinated in cold blood’: activist killed protesting ... by amalgamated_inc on Saturday January 21, 2023 @08:03PM (#34472872)
Guardian is commie agitprop
Re:‘Assassinated in cold blood’: activist killed protesting ... by amalgamated_inc on Saturday January 21, 2023 @10:05PM (#34473802)
Commies downvoting :)
Re:‘Assassinated in cold blood’: activist killed protesting ... by sander27home on Saturday January 21, 2023 @09:36PM (#34473601)
Depends. If the cops involved do have intention to kill, and using the raid/protest to shoot a guaranteed fatal bullets, that is assassination. But proving it is near zero. At best it is just manslaughter at worst (which is bulk of infamous American police brutality), paid leaves. In this case, if the protestors are the usual well-known activist in that region (which sound is), then having him killed off with the cover of protests can happen based on past histories.
Re:‘Assassinated in cold blood’: activist killed protesting ... by gruez on Saturday January 21, 2023 @09:59PM (#34473763)
>Depends. If the cops involved do have intention to kill, and using the raid/protest to shoot a guaranteed fatal bullets, that is assassination.

I'm not sure what's the point you're trying to make here. If you read my previous comment, you'd realize that I didn't rule out that this was an "assassination", only that there wasn't any evidence to support that claim, and absent that it was responsible to leap to the conclusion of "assassination".