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Re:how to completely own an airline in 3 easy steps by javajosh on Thursday January 19, 2023 @08:02PM (#34447855)
>At least it got flagged!

Ah yes, censorship is good when it is an opinion you do not share, right? That I was flagged is wrong on the part of hacker news, and whoever got that ball rolling.

>All moral codes have a "coercive" element to them

Coercion is good too. Are you sure you're not the baddie here? Are you really sure?

>as a thoroughgoing nerd, I spent a lot of my childhood getting shit on for being different, so I'm happy to help make space for different kinds of difference.

Another popular strawman. I stated explicitly "live how you want" and yet you assert that I'm against difference or outcasts. You lied.

>trans folks have a pretty hard role in life

I'm speaking specifically of custom pronouns. If you cut off your junk and wear a dress, I think its rude not to call you "she". It is a shitty kind of idea that encourages people to introduce new error modes into their relationships, and the bitter irony is you think you're doing people a favor by doing that.

Re:how to completely own an airline in 3 easy steps by bavent on Thursday January 19, 2023 @08:18PM (#34447983)
People disagreeing with you is not censorship. We can all still see your comment.
Re:how to completely own an airline in 3 easy steps by wholinator2 on Thursday January 19, 2023 @08:27PM (#34448058)
I don't want to involve myself in this argument but I will say that I can not see their original post. It displays as just "[flagged]" for me. I don't know if that's the app I'm using or what, but I cannot see the post.
Re:how to completely own an airline in 3 easy steps by bavent on Thursday January 19, 2023 @08:29PM (#34448074)
Really? I see the "[flagged]", and the post, it's just slightly dimmer and I had to manually open it. I'm using no special extensions or anything, just a normal browser.
Re:how to completely own an airline in 3 easy steps by cldellow on Thursday January 19, 2023 @08:45PM (#34448186)
There is a stage past [flagged] where a post can also be [dead].

You only see dead posts if you have showdead=yes in your settings.

So you may have seen their comment before it was killed, or you may have showdead=yes in your settings.

Re:how to completely own an airline in 3 easy steps by howinteresting on Thursday January 19, 2023 @09:16PM (#34448385)
Going back to your original post:

>Anyone who doesn't have the capacity to accept being called any pronoun has a mental health problem.

By this metric the vast majority of humanity has a mental health problem, and you're an exception. Most cis, het men do not like to be called she or a girl.

Re:how to completely own an airline in 3 easy steps by wpietri on Thursday January 19, 2023 @09:23PM (#34448437)
Yeah, that's pretty special. Personally as a cis nerd, I find the neurotypical obsession with gender roles pretty weird. I think we would be healthier if there were less of it, and like that we seem to be heading that way. But I don't think that makes everybody mentally ill.
Re:how to completely own an airline in 3 easy steps by howinteresting on Friday January 20, 2023 @03:29PM (#34459409)
Worth drawing a distinction between gender roles, which are mostly "socially constructed", and gender identity, which is someone's inherent sense of their gender (with a strong biological component).

Gender identity is an essential part of what makes us human. Some people have a stronger sense of it than others. To the extent that mental illness describes an actual objective thing, having a gender identity does not make someone mentally ill, because it doesn't by itself disrupt one's healthy functioning in society. It is when that gender identity is invalidated by others that it can affect people's mental health (just like calling someone a slur or insulting them can affect their mental health). It is still not an illness, though.

Re:how to completely own an airline in 3 easy steps by wpietri on Thursday January 19, 2023 @09:20PM (#34448423)
It looks like you posted a strident reply and then replaced it with something anodyne. Given that people have already replied, that strikes me as both rude and confusing. Just so everybody knows the edit history, here is your original comment:

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>At least it got flagged!

Ah yes, censorship is good when it is an opinion you do not share, right? That I was flagged is wrong on the part of hacker news, and whoever got that ball rolling.

>All moral codes have a "coercive" element to them

Coercion is good too. Are you sure you're not the baddie here? Are you really sure?

>as a thoroughgoing nerd, I spent a lot of my childhood getting shit on for being different, so I'm happy to help make space for different kinds of difference.

Another popular strawman. I stated explicitly "live how you want" and yet you assert that I'm against difference or outcasts. You lied.

>trans folks have a pretty hard role in life

I'm speaking specifically of custom pronouns. If you cut off your junk and wear a dress, I think its rude not to call you "she". It is a shitty kind of idea that encourages people to introduce new error modes into their relationships, and the bitter irony is you think you're doing people a favor by doing that.