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Re:IBM Quantum System Two by rbanffy on Thursday January 19, 2023 @03:21PM (#34445088)
There is successful tech in the “tech that does what says on the box” and in “achieves good market fit”.

A lot of their stuff does 1, but not 2.

And their mainframes, underhyped to the extreme, that more or less still run the world.

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Re:IBM Quantum System Two by nerdo on Thursday January 19, 2023 @03:59PM (#34445518)
Banks run the world, IBM mainframes run the banks.
Re:IBM Quantum System Two by dralley on Thursday January 19, 2023 @04:49PM (#34446119)
>IBM mainframes run the banks.

And the airlines, and the logistics companies

Re:IBM Quantum System Two by sophacles on Thursday January 19, 2023 @04:50PM (#34446139)
That's a bit unfair to the insurance companies. They have a pretty big say in what happens and also run mainframes.
Re:IBM Quantum System Two by hcks on Thursday January 19, 2023 @06:13PM (#34446967)
And mainframes run on concrete floors, maybe construction companies run the world by that logic?
Re:IBM Quantum System Two by nerdo on Thursday January 19, 2023 @08:22PM (#34448018)
Mainframes aren't a big truck, they're a series of concrete floors.
Re:IBM Quantum System Two by rbanffy on Friday January 20, 2023 @06:46PM (#34461879)
My usual comparison is with cargo airplanes.
Re:IBM Quantum System Two by Nursie on Thursday January 19, 2023 @09:18PM (#34448395)
This is becoming less true over time.
Re:IBM Quantum System Two by dekhn on Thursday January 19, 2023 @05:22PM (#34446519)
many of the most core US IT infrastructure projects- government and commercial- depend on IBM 360 assembly code or another IBM system, written decades ago that has been repeatedly scaled to handle the increase in load.

Two I can think of: SABRE and the IRS. See more here: https://www.nextgov.com/cxo-briefing/2016/05/10-oldest-it-sy...

Personally I have a ton of respect for production systems that can be scaled in place for 50 years. But I don't have any interest in learning to run IBM mainframes or code for them- I'm preparing for lots of contract work in 2037.

Re:IBM Quantum System Two by sofixa on Friday January 20, 2023 @03:48AM (#34450525)
> And their mainframes, underhyped to the extreme, that more or less still run the world.

More or less, but less and less. Many a bank, airline, etc. has had or has or will have a "digital transformation"/move to cloud/rewrite apps/websites to actually be usable/etc. project to switch away from legacy stuff handicapping them to a more modern leaner tech stack. Mostly because they got shown by newer, leaner competition how it's done (neobanks, low-cost airlines) so finally there is some incentive. And of course the added benefits of commodity hardware (as a Service) being much more easily replaceable and scalable. If you're a big bank/airline, why would you spend billions on mainframes from a single vendor you're beholden to, with all the staffing problems (nobody knows this stuff so hiring is a nightmare), specced for the highest possible load you might get? Instead of throwing it on AWS which "everyone" knows and can scale up/down based on demand. Migrating isn't easy or cheap, but it makes so much sense.