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Re:Telling your inner critic to chill by FailMore on Thursday January 19, 2023 @12:11PM (#34442761)
Affirmations do not work.

Mental health is mechanical. Most anxiety and suffering within mental health are second order effects from unconscious fears that we have about behaviours we feel are risky to take. For example, if you grow up in a household where your personal distress causes distress in others, you will hide your own personal distress and attempt to appear good all of the time. You will have high levels of anxiety in situations in which you might have to admit distress/dissatisfaction/not be a happy person that makes everyone else happy.

To improve mental health, more behaviours on the spectrum of all possible behaviours need to become calmly accessible. This allows the brain to be calmer in a wider range of situations; previously a situation that might cause distress might have been avoided/cause a spike in anxiety, now the situation can be faced calmly and the newly integrated behaviour allows the individual to say "sorry, I'm finding this too stressful, I need to stop".

Everyone typically has their own unique combination of behaviours which are not easily accessible. In my personal therapy I found that my dreams were a useful way of diagnosing what behaviours I was not comfortable with. I got very interested in this and ultimately completed a Masters in Psychology to write a paper on the topic based on the underlying neurology that occurs during REM sleep.

The paper can be read here: https://psyarxiv.com/k6trz

It was discussed on HN here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19143590

Re:Telling your inner critic to chill by iamsanteri on Thursday January 19, 2023 @12:57PM (#34443331)
Can you explain more about your line of reasoning and thinking? Any good sources you know about discussing exactly such ideas and details? Thank you!
Re:Telling your inner critic to chill by FailMore on Thursday January 19, 2023 @01:52PM (#34444006)
Not massively. The theory within psychotherapy is quite messy at the moment. It's one of the reasons I'm training to be one. Why Love Matters is a good book though.

I also made a long YT video explaining my theory, but it was a long time ago and I haven't watched it in a long time so I can't remember precisely what I was thinking at the time. I think it explains most of the concepts well enough though. It's here if you want to watch it: https://youtu.be/iPPNxc7nApY

Re:Telling your inner critic to chill by FailMore on Thursday January 19, 2023 @01:54PM (#34444038)
Also my comment history contains similar posts with a bit more depth to them
Re:Telling your inner critic to chill by iamsanteri on Friday January 20, 2023 @04:01AM (#34450593)
Thanks!
Re:Telling your inner critic to chill by crispyambulance on Thursday January 19, 2023 @01:13PM (#34443538)
> Affirmations do not work.

It depends. They definitely DO work for some people and do nothing for others, YMMV.

When they work, the carefully chosen words and ideas in the affirmations help to remind us of things and steer us towards more mindfulness.

Re:Telling your inner critic to chill by zcw100 on Saturday January 21, 2023 @06:25AM (#34465673)
By what metric do they work? And what is mindfulness? You have something that can’t be measured or defined.
Re:Telling your inner critic to chill by crispyambulance on Saturday January 21, 2023 @03:26PM (#34470090)
If one develops a habit of meditating on their affirmations, the ideas within the affirmations are more likely to come to mind during an emotional incident and help to regulate behavior towards the desired outcome.

The "coming to mind" of valuable self-regulating ideas is "mindfulness". Yes. It's subjective. That's OK. And yes, it may not work for everyone. People are different and have different ways of reacting and different levels of self-awareness.

Re:Telling your inner critic to chill by savryn on Thursday January 19, 2023 @03:07PM (#34444948)
I kinda agree with everything except that affirmations DO work, they are like self hypnosis and reach the unconscious in ways that add up.

Every time a horrible cringe/guilt memory comes up, instead of expletive Fuuuuuuu (mental or out loud) literally reprogram yourself to immediately say "I love me!" or "Different now" or something else that's positive.

Thoughts and feelings that fire together wire together, so you MUST to break the connection of old shit spiraling into bad mood, paralysis, etc in the moment.

This is daily housekeeping for mental health. No one has endless time to meditate or waste money on therapy

once you have a few of these solid habits, you feel strong enough to do the heavy murky freudian trauma whatever unraveling that lasts a lifetime and releases the tight gordian knots from childhood etc.

But daily tools DO work and are just as important.

Re:Telling your inner critic to chill by savryn on Thursday January 19, 2023 @03:30PM (#34445198)
------- additional ranty side notes---

in person therapy is a waste of time/money for most people unless you're so wealthy you can afford the wise old superstar in their field (most of the best have already dropped dead of old age).

less charitable: those who knock the easy/free/practical-yet-harmless-woo are kinda just protecting the value of their profession / special modality, consciously or unconsciously imo, like doctors who don't accept basic fasting thats been around a thousand years, eating keto/carn, or benefits of natural immunity... lol

I say don't be loyal to any 'experts', steal whatever works from their cheap books and youtube and other resources across modalities and put together a hodgepodge of stuff for yourself!

Buy their book instead and do it yourself.

more ranty side points----------

therapy is like the 80-20 garbage/quality ratio of all fields, especially the affordable ones most likely a mediocre broken person with their own baggage/desires/ego they'll project onto you.

Good luck being a hot girl, philosophically and politically anything but a very liberal humanist, having any personality type that isn't already a feely crier who understands your emotions, any one with working class common sense, anyone with aggression, bitterness and/or less 'nice' presentations of symptoms or a myriad other demographic factors. These aspects SO OBVIOUSLY influence the undercurrents between mediocre therapists and patient but they swear as professionals do not or are just further 'grist for the mill', eye roll...

You're not gonna magically book an appointment (with or without insurance) and get like Irvin Yalom or some other wise soul, or the smart self-dignified composure of Melfi/Paul HBO fictional therapists that created standards of excellence not realistic in real life....

Most practitioners are kinda weak people seeking status and comfort and easy wins, difficult patients annoy them subconsciously, and do nothing to earn the trust necessary.

(Everyone recommending "get therapy!" on every thread online is just a middle-class reaction formation, now automatic unthinking advice against the uncomfortable pain and grim reality of being an individual in the world.

Re:Telling your inner critic to chill by noptd on Thursday January 19, 2023 @04:02PM (#34445563)
Beautifully put.
Re:Telling your inner critic to chill by polishdude20 on Friday January 20, 2023 @10:56AM (#34454789)
Interesting take but it seems some past experiences have colored your opinion here. Which, I'm not rejecting. In response to "just do it yourself" there are lots of people who are in mental state where they literally just can't get themselves to do that. They sometimes need that person / therapist to get started.
Re:Telling your inner critic to chill by savryn on Friday January 20, 2023 @06:32PM (#34461675)
I wished I'd had legit 'bad' experiences, then I'd know they were outliers and would make for a story, but really I was shocked by deep mediocrity of several therapists, diff regions, male and female, diff costs etc.

The costs / risks of trusting important matters to average middling people makes it not worth it.

It's not a horror show, it's just a waste...

The reputation of therapy came from the top/excellent practitioners in the field over several decades.... and now it's a cheapened wonder-bread experience and even app based, lmao

The hype needs extreme push back.

Re:Telling your inner critic to chill by strogonoff on Thursday January 19, 2023 @09:54PM (#34448637)
Your inner critic is what you think the others think of you, and—setting aside coping techniques, however helpful—truly silencing it is possible in two ways: others stop giving you reasons for fearing their opinion, or you become a sociopath. I find the first option preferable, but getting there is on all of us…
Re:Telling your inner critic to chill by unrealp on Thursday January 19, 2023 @11:23PM (#34449232)
> Affirmations do not work

it is about what story you are telling yourself. Its not the affirmations that work or not work. If it works, its the narrative/story that 'I am doing affirmations everyday and these will make me a better person' . If it doesnt work 'I am doing affirmations but hey whats the point this is silly'.