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Re:Tell HN: It is impossible to disable Google 2FA using bac... by gravitronic on Thursday January 19, 2023 @11:58AM (#34442570)
Hey, thank you so much for trying to help me.

On what page do you see the Authenticator app listed? I suspect it's on the "Two Factor Auth" page. My problem is that I cannot even load that page. I click on "Security" in the menu, and it's when I click on "Two factor auth" to do any 2fa-related task, that's when I'm forced to log in and provide a 2fa code (which I do not have)

Re:Tell HN: It is impossible to disable Google 2FA using bac... by alxndr13 on Thursday January 19, 2023 @12:15PM (#34442805)
Just tested it.

- Private Browser Window - Log in using backup code - can change auth app without another login.

Re:Tell HN: It is impossible to disable Google 2FA using bac... by gravitronic on Thursday January 19, 2023 @12:25PM (#34442935)
So weird, because I cannot!

Maybe it's because I haven't used a 2FA code on this account in the past year? I typically stay logged out of my Google account and just have the email forwarded to another provider.

Re:Tell HN: It is impossible to disable Google 2FA using bac... by random2021 on Thursday January 19, 2023 @12:31PM (#34443020)
I guess could be that.

I too create a new chrome profile (and restarted my router) to get a different IP. (i.e) clean.

- Does this mean you are able to access emails but not change 2FA?

- If yes, do a take out ASAP.

- May be the backup codes are incorrect?

(Unless the machine learning folks on hn did some programming to prevent it!!!). For every one that complains about Google, I wonder how hn crowd pleasingly accepts pay check in the software industry.

Re:Tell HN: It is impossible to disable Google 2FA using bac... by gravitronic on Thursday January 19, 2023 @12:34PM (#34443049)
The backup codes are what enabled me to log in, thankfully, so I know they work.

Thanks for the takeout advice.. onto that now!

Re:Tell HN: It is impossible to disable Google 2FA using bac... by shadowgovt on Thursday January 19, 2023 @02:09PM (#34444259)
> Maybe it's because I haven't used a 2FA code on this account in the past year?

Oh dear. You're almost certainly off the critical path of integration and end-to-end testing and may have hit a legit bug.

Re:Tell HN: It is impossible to disable Google 2FA using bac... by ChrisArchitect on Thursday January 19, 2023 @03:35PM (#34445249)
Errr... so now the story comes out that this is more of a weirder case than everyday use.
Re:Tell HN: It is impossible to disable Google 2FA using bac... by random2021 on Thursday January 19, 2023 @12:00PM (#34442609)
go to https://myaccount.google.com/security?hl=en

Then, https://myaccount.google.com/signinoptions/two-step-verifica...

There you can see Authenticator app.

(I am doing this on desktop. Not sure about phone)

Re:Tell HN: It is impossible to disable Google 2FA using bac... by gravitronic on Thursday January 19, 2023 @12:05PM (#34442679)
Thanks for the followup. I'm also on desktop.

When I click the second link, I'm forced to reauthenticate. During that reauthentication my only option for 2-factor auth is... a valid 2FA code. Backup codes are not allowed.

I suspect since you originally logged in with a 2FA code (I'm guessing), your session is marked as "recently two factor verified", and when I logged in with a backup code, I was not marked the same level of "secure".

Re:Tell HN: It is impossible to disable Google 2FA using bac... by random2021 on Thursday January 19, 2023 @12:12PM (#34442771)
since you told me I am using a I tried without 2FA code but with backup-code

> When I click the second link, I'm forced to reauthenticate.

Here, I am being asked my password.

Then get that page.

Re:Tell HN: It is impossible to disable Google 2FA using bac... by codetrotter on Thursday January 19, 2023 @12:17PM (#34442835)
Probably the difference, like parent says, is that you recently used 2FA, from the same OP address etc etc, so even though you have signed in with backup code now Google still trust your sign in more than OP.
Re:Tell HN: It is impossible to disable Google 2FA using bac... by ploxiln on Thursday January 19, 2023 @02:57PM (#34444819)
There's probably a vague/inconsistent (possibly "AI") threat-score / heuristic. I've heard of extra security requirements being imposed for like 30 days or so when you haven't accessed for a long time (or on a new machine?) and it's just ironic how they currently put you in a catch-22