How to Swim Against the Stream: On Diogenes

Re:How to Swim Against the Stream: On Diogenes by anononaut on Wednesday January 18, 2023 @12:40PM (#34429999)

To what end, Diogenes? As an unapologetic contrarian, I find articles regarding him interesting but can't really articulate why. Something about being an asshole with strong convictions, I suppose. But to what end?

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Re:How to Swim Against the Stream: On Diogenes by 082349872349872 on Wednesday January 18, 2023 @12:48PM (#34430124)

A long life, of few unsolicited interruptions, followed by long-lasting fame?

(the last probably not being one of his ends, but it weighed heavily among his contemporaries' ends)

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Re:How to Swim Against the Stream: On Diogenes by anononaut on Wednesday January 18, 2023 @12:56PM (#34430258)

Diogenes clearly welcomed interruptions. Pissing on patrons, arriving late to theatre, begging from statues. He was always making a point. As for a long life, I very much want that for myself and as a result live well and relax hard. Maybe that's what he did, but he wasn't aiming for it living in barrels and sharing food with dogs.

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Re:How to Swim Against the Stream: On Diogenes by twelve40 on Wednesday January 18, 2023 @09:16PM (#34435942)

like acting out what the others wrote in parables? he does have a point begging from a statue, for example

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Re:How to Swim Against the Stream: On Diogenes by cratermoon on Wednesday January 18, 2023 @09:22PM (#34435980)

> To what end, Diogenes?

παραχαραττειν το νομισμα

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Re:How to Swim Against the Stream: On Diogenes by anononaut on Thursday January 19, 2023 @02:39PM (#34444610)

This was exactly what I was looking for!

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Re:How to Swim Against the Stream: On Diogenes by coldtea on Thursday January 19, 2023 @12:02AM (#34436885)

Not giving a fuck? Independence? Free minded? Living the life in your own terms, not the rat race's?

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