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Re:In the past, I've had students call my problem sets “emot... by haswell on Wednesday January 18, 2023 @11:13AM (#34428581)
What he’s describing here is quite a departure from “quit as soon as you notice your peers are better than you”.

Being intellectually honest with yourself is still important, but if that’s what the parent comment was advocating, it did so poorly.

Re:In the past, I've had students call my problem sets “emot... by xyzzyz on Wednesday January 18, 2023 @11:31AM (#34428880)
Note that I said “you should probably drop out”, not “you need to drop out as soon as you notice others are better”. This shows that there is hardly a way I could have advocated it better, as people like you, or others in this thread (read their responses to me and mine to them) will misread it anyway, and instead argue against a straw man.

Additional reason is that if I hedged my opinion and tried to predict and answer to all possible critiques, the comment would be way too long and nobody would read it anyway, including the pre-written response to the point they made in reply.

Re:In the past, I've had students call my problem sets “emot... by haswell on Wednesday January 18, 2023 @01:39PM (#34430931)
The "should probably" is not the issue nor does it exonerate the advice.

It's the recommendation with no inkling of acknowledgement that other factors exist beyond a naive comparison of oneself with their peers.

The ethos of HN is generally to explore the depths of an issue in favor of making sweeping generalizations. This is one of the key things that separates discussion here from other places that shall not be named.

Knowing that many younger students and folks earlier in their careers participate here, that comment wasn't going to remain unanswered for long.

I don't think it would be terribly difficult to reframe what was written to provoke thought about intellectual honesty with oneself without unnecessarily leading others astray or losing all nuance in the process.

Re:In the past, I've had students call my problem sets “emot... by YeGoblynQueenne on Thursday January 19, 2023 @05:13AM (#34438664)
>> The ethos of HN is generally to explore the depths of an issue in favor of making sweeping generalizations.

Gosh, talk about sweeping generalisations. I mean, come on, it's not like HN users are some cohort of highly educated philosphers or mathematicians, the majority here spend most of their day battling the newest javascript framework and probably come to HN just to clear their mind of the impossible dreariness of modern-day web programming. Our dang wants this place to be all about intellectual curiosity but most users just want to vent and argue a bit, right?

I learned a phrase in French recently: "se jeter des fleurs aux fesses". Means throwing flowers onto one's bum. It is very evocative, I believe. Let's refrain from doing that. Think of the flowers.

And most people on HN also probably post on reddit anyway so.

Re:In the past, I've had students call my problem sets “emot... by haswell on Thursday January 19, 2023 @09:07AM (#34440387)
> Our dang wants this place to be all about intellectual curiosity but most users just want to vent and argue a bit, right?

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html