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Re:Meet “Claude”: Anthropic’s Rival to ChatGPT by goodside on Wednesday January 18, 2023 @04:26AM (#34424906)
The motivation as I understand it has less to do with any particular opinions on present-day misuse, but rather a desire to maintain controllable and beneficial behavior in accordance with an arbitrary, human-written “Constitution”. Anthropic is attempting to make a model that will not harm (in the unambiguous, uncontroversial sense of the word) humans even if it is superhumanly intelligent, and capable of easily persuading people to do what it wants.
Re:Meet “Claude”: Anthropic’s Rival to ChatGPT by Nevermark on Wednesday January 18, 2023 @04:34AM (#34424932)
You can think adversarial models, which are often used to detect and negatively reinforce quality issues in model outputs.

Claude outputs an answer. Then Claude independently rates the output for "helpfulness" as in literally "Claude, how helpful is this answer to this question".

There is no collusion between the two results because they are run independently.

Then Claude also rates answers for "honesty" and "harm".

Then Claude's parameters are updated to increase helpfulness and honesty, and decrease harmfulness, based on ratings backpropagated to the signals generated by the original question.

Not saying that is exactly what they are doing, but that is one approach. It manages to leverage language models to train themselves on broad concepts, as apposed to brittle, more unreliable and vastly more resource intensive manual labeling.

Very clever. As the models get better at languages (and other modalities), and the concepts behind them, the models also get better at schooling themselves.

Re:Meet “Claude”: Anthropic’s Rival to ChatGPT by zaptrem on Wednesday January 18, 2023 @05:09AM (#34425120)
Wouldn’t all the Claudes be incentivized to simply trash each other constantly in that case?
Re:Meet “Claude”: Anthropic’s Rival to ChatGPT by Nevermark on Wednesday January 18, 2023 @05:24AM (#34425190)
That would certainly be something to design clear of.

I don't think that is a problem. Each query runs separately so there is no "collusion", i.e. shared signals and coordination, between contrary goals (winning and virtue).

Also, all the information about ratings, winning and winning examples can be used without ever giving the models explicit information about the population of models and how they are being used as a group. They don't need to know they are in a competition for competitive information to be used to update them.

They just know they have ratings to improve, some indicator of how close to "the bar of currently targeted virtue" they are, and examples of how they could have improved them.

Of course, I am just spitballing, and assuming the training regimen gets vetted by a lot of people (and models?!?).

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In the long run, when there are long running artificial personalities with personal memories and more direct awareness of their own motivations and options, there will certainly be the need for additional levels of moral wiring to be considered.

Re:Meet “Claude”: Anthropic’s Rival to ChatGPT by detrites on Wednesday January 18, 2023 @04:50AM (#34425013)
Great answer, thank you.

The issue of regarding humans as AI-persuadable entities is certainly one to be carefully considered. Indeed, if it were to occur in the truest sense, we'd never know it.

Another view is any AI we give birth to may only be constituted of what we are; we who ultimately, if imperfectly, demonstrate value for all life. In a sense, our constitution as "mostly harmless" may be AI's default.