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Re:Pegasus: A Spy in Your Pocket Threatens the End of Privacy by cheeseomlit on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @04:03PM (#34419066)
If the US Gov has access to the data Google collects without issuing a warrant, which they do according to the Snowden leaks, then the distinction is meaningless as far as the intent of the 4th amendment goes
Re:Pegasus: A Spy in Your Pocket Threatens the End of Privacy by orthecreedence on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @04:12PM (#34419227)
Yes, the separation of state and industry has long been eroded in the US. Yet people are still under the illusion that democracy exists.
Re:Pegasus: A Spy in Your Pocket Threatens the End of Privacy by czx4f4bd on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @04:15PM (#34419281)
The US government obtained that data by illegally tapping into Google's data centers, which means the government was still the entity violating the 4th amendment.

If you want to criticize Google's data collection, fine, but doing it in terms of the 4th amendment is just nonsensical. If you want to criticize companies for collecting data that could subsequently be illegally collected by the government, then every single company that collects any PII/private information could be criticized on the same basis.

Re:Pegasus: A Spy in Your Pocket Threatens the End of Privacy by cheeseomlit on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @04:34PM (#34419589)
It's not like they hacked into Google's servers without their knowledge or consent, they were given access to the data. Obviously those who knew about it at Google were under gag orders, but one would hope that somebody involved would have the balls to leak the government's blatantly unconstitutional and illegal demands to the press regardless. Those gag orders wouldn't have held up in court if anybody at one of the PRISM companies had the conscience to go rogue. Every company involved in PRISM can be rightfully accused of colluding with the government to violate the basic 4th amendment rights of millions of people, knowingly and willingly.
Re:Pegasus: A Spy in Your Pocket Threatens the End of Privacy by roywiggins on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @05:01PM (#34420008)
I didn't get the impression that MUSCULAR (intercepting Google's inter-datacenter links, distinct from PRISM) involved Google's cooperation.
Re:Pegasus: A Spy in Your Pocket Threatens the End of Privacy by EMM_386 on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @05:05PM (#34420068)
> It's not like they hacked into Google's servers without their knowledge or consent, they were given access to the data.

This is not true. The NSA hacked Google without their consent.

The relevant slide from the Snowden leak is here:

https://i.imgur.com/7IHE6sG.png

> Snowden leaks: Google 'outraged' at alleged NSA hacking

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-24751821

Re:Pegasus: A Spy in Your Pocket Threatens the End of Privacy by webdoodle on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @05:07PM (#34420103)
There's a word for that: FASCISM, and both parties enabled it:

-Bush Jr. set up the surveillance system using a classified executive order

-Obama gave access to it to 16 Law Enforcement agencies (via EO) and didn't renew the Smith-Mundt Act to legalize psychological warfare on U.S. Citizens

-Trump could have shut it down by the same Executive Order system , but instead did nothing but whine and remove a single Top Security clearance from Brennan. He also ordered the DHS to create lists of journalists and media influencers to target for surveillance.

-Biden weaponized social media against us to silence us and ostracize us from society.

Re:Pegasus: A Spy in Your Pocket Threatens the End of Privacy by drooopy on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @05:29PM (#34420388)
-Biden weaponized social media against us to silence us and ostracize us from society.

Huh?

Re:Pegasus: A Spy in Your Pocket Threatens the End of Privacy by webdoodle on Wednesday January 18, 2023 @12:58PM (#34430296)
I take it, you've missed the Twitter Files completely?