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Re:Apple Unveils MacBook Pro Featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max by smoldesu on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @10:03AM (#34413211)
File it under the "botched marketing campaign" folder, then. If you're selling a machine to professionals, the copywriting ought to speak their language.
Re:Apple Unveils MacBook Pro Featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max by Jcowell on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @10:28AM (#34413558)
Why exactly is this an issue if they target audience are those who own intel Macs?
Re:Apple Unveils MacBook Pro Featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max by smoldesu on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @11:14AM (#34414313)
Because then only people with Intel Macs care. People like me, who remember the 2019 i9 Macbook Pro being one of Apple's least-recommended laptops, are kinda unfazed by favorable performance comparisons. There are probably hundreds of laptops that can destroy it in a fraction of it's power envelope; it wasn't a great machine.

Mostly, it's ironic that Apple is comparing themselves to a company that they want so desperately to escape. And, once you do run the math on their actual year-over-year improvements, it's not that different from AMD or Intel. And Apple is increasing their power consumption to hit those numbers. It's quite literally square one in a sense, just with a different CPU architecture and a different manufacturer.

Re:Apple Unveils MacBook Pro Featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max by nomel on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @11:08AM (#34414232)
> If you're selling a machine to professionals

They are selling to professionals, but probably not ones that speak your exact language. Having a solid understanding of hardware puts you into a small small minority of professionals that this was meant to be for. This is the same for Intel and AMD marketing: hardcore tech people are not the target audience for this material.

Re:Apple Unveils MacBook Pro Featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max by ianai on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @11:20AM (#34414400)
Read their other comments. They have an axe to grind against apple. This is like Chevy fans trolling an F150 forum.
Re:Apple Unveils MacBook Pro Featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max by cantSpellSober on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @11:24AM (#34414461)
Then maybe remove the word "Pro"?
Re:Apple Unveils MacBook Pro Featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max by nomel on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @12:29PM (#34415509)
If you're using your computer to make money, then "Pro" seems appropriate:

Professional:

    1. relating to or belonging to a profession.

    2. engaged in a specified activity as one's main paid occupation rather than as a pastime.

What definition do you see as more appropriate?
Re:Apple Unveils MacBook Pro Featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max by cantSpellSober on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @03:16PM (#34418246)
If you know what "color grading" is (and your job depends on doing it) you're probably a "hardcore tech" person that knows what the mystical abbreviation "GPU" stands for.

"Professional" writers using a word processor might not understand what "hardware-accelerated H.264" means, yet there it is on their website under Air! Are those for "hardcore tech" people?

https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac

Re:Apple Unveils MacBook Pro Featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max by nomel on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @07:46PM (#34421778)
I think I've lost the point of the discussion.

You're referencing marketing material. All marketing material is to sell the product, usually to a somewhat targeted subset of the buyers. Looking at their sales, and around any office, their marketing, and "Pro" products, appear to be extremely appealing to a large range of professional users. I think this shows that their "Pro" label is appropriate. I'm having trouble understanding why you think it isn't appropriate.

Do you have a notebook in mind that is worthy of a "Pro" label, so I can see what you're baseline is?

Re:Apple Unveils MacBook Pro Featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max by cantSpellSober on Thursday January 19, 2023 @11:46AM (#34442398)
You defined a "Pro" as someone that's "using your computer to make money", like writers using a word processor. Let's suppose all they do is use Google Docs in a browser.

Should they buy the Air, or pay the premium for the Pro? After all, they're "hardcore tech" people.

Re:Apple Unveils MacBook Pro Featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max by nomel on Friday January 20, 2023 @01:51PM (#34457840)
Sorry, I still don't understand what you think "Pro" should be used for, when the label is attached to a notebook.

Do you have an example of a notebook where a "Pro" label would be appropriate, as an example, so I can understand where you're coming from?