Re:Ask HN: How do you trust that your personal machine is no...
by ignoramous on Monday January 16, 2023 @06:49AM
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Valid points.
> Architecturally, it seems to me that Apple with their own SoCs, bootrom, RTKit, iBoot etc. has a stronger platform trust case because they actually own the stack all the way with nobody else having a say about it.
That's why I specifically and only mention Pixel in my comment. Google's been doing their own hardware since Pixel 6. (iirc) Daniel Micay, creator of GrapheneOS, once said that Google shares firmware / proprietary code for the Pixel hardware "if you ask nicely enough".
Like you point out, eventually, one is left trusting a BigCo or worse assuming a flawed implementation is secure. Though, it isn't for the want of not trying. Or, to put it another way, "the best among the rest".
> Architecturally, it seems to me that Apple with their own SoCs, bootrom, RTKit, iBoot etc. has a stronger platform trust case because they actually own the stack all the way with nobody else having a say about it.
That's why I specifically and only mention Pixel in my comment. Google's been doing their own hardware since Pixel 6. (iirc) Daniel Micay, creator of GrapheneOS, once said that Google shares firmware / proprietary code for the Pixel hardware "if you ask nicely enough".
Like you point out, eventually, one is left trusting a BigCo or worse assuming a flawed implementation is secure. Though, it isn't for the want of not trying. Or, to put it another way, "the best among the rest".