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Re:NYPD can use more than 15,000 cameras to track people usi... by PM_me_your_math on Sunday January 15, 2023 @01:19PM (#34391599)
Yes, we can operate public transit, and pay transit employees (70,000+) on love, hugs, and hope. I'm sure love, hugs, and hope will pay for mortgages, car payments, food, clothes, baby formula, and everything else. Why didn't anyone think of this before?
Re:NYPD can use more than 15,000 cameras to track people usi... by Benjammer on Sunday January 15, 2023 @01:26PM (#34391665)
Do you say this about the road crews who build and maintain public streets and highways? What about the parks department? Should I pay a fee to enter Central Park for the day? Why can't public transit be a government service? Does everything need to be financialized?
Re:NYPD can use more than 15,000 cameras to track people usi... by ninkendo on Sunday January 15, 2023 @01:33PM (#34391725)
We can't operate it on love, hugs, and hope, but we can probably operate it on tax dollars.
Re:NYPD can use more than 15,000 cameras to track people usi... by PM_me_your_math on Sunday January 15, 2023 @01:42PM (#34391829)
So then, it isn't free. You just want someone else to pay for it.
Re:NYPD can use more than 15,000 cameras to track people usi... by PuppyTailWags on Sunday January 15, 2023 @02:40PM (#34392487)
Yeah. I do. Just like I don't expect to pay for my firefighter and I don't expect to pay the actual cost of implanting internet and electricity wiring in the street. I don't expect to pay the salary of the science, math, literature, etc. teachers, not even the school nurse.

In fact when it comes to schools I am the someone else paying for it, because my children aren't in every school at all times. And I'm fine with it.

I frankly find this attitude that social benefits should be pushed back on because not everyone is partaking in the social benefit at the same time to be frankly hypocritical to communicate on the internet, a technology I certainly didn't pay the salaries of the mathematicians and engineers for.

Re:NYPD can use more than 15,000 cameras to track people usi... by ninkendo on Sunday January 15, 2023 @02:34PM (#34392431)
If you interpret caditinpiscinam‘s comment so uncharitably that you think they really think public transit really can cost zero dollars to anyone, you probably have a very frustrating time interacting with others.

They very clearly meant “you don’t have to pay at time of use, it’s paid by tax dollars”, and nearly everyone who reads that comment would interpret it that way. There’s no reason to pick the dumbest, most braindead interpretations of such comments just to make yourself feel smart. You could have just thought “they probably mean taxpayer-paid” and then moved on.

Re:NYPD can use more than 15,000 cameras to track people usi... by DangitBobby on Sunday January 15, 2023 @01:52PM (#34391921)
Or everyone, in this case.
Re:NYPD can use more than 15,000 cameras to track people usi... by ergonaught on Sunday January 15, 2023 @02:03PM (#34392052)
I like these kinds of responses.

So you suggest we pay them with what, exactly?

With gold coins? With fruits harvested from the vast fields of money trees?

Or maybe with the collective consensus illusion of funds fabricated by "government" for the use of its citizens?

Money isn't a real thing. Money is not a real thing. There is no such thing as money.

Public services can be paid for with the same thing everything else is paid for: the surrounding social system ("government") saying that it's paid.

People are so deeply invested and locked into maintaining their grasp of the illusion of how things really are that they cannot fathom "the way things are" is completely invented and almost always subject to change if people would just stop maintaining the illusion.