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Re:FAA says computer failure was caused by 2 contractors who... by toomuchtodo on Saturday January 14, 2023 @11:39AM (#34381577)
Right. Engineer closest to the fault gets scapegoated and fired, new hire gets hired in without any idea what they’re coming into, and the show goes on.
Re:FAA says computer failure was caused by 2 contractors who... by marcosdumay on Saturday January 14, 2023 @01:26PM (#34382580)
> Engineer closest to the fault gets scapegoated and fired

That happens. But not every time, and even "usually" requires some statistics collecting to be sustained.

Very often people just say "yes, we learned an expensive lesson", and change something that may or may not help the next time it happens.

Re:FAA says computer failure was caused by 2 contractors who... by toomuchtodo on Saturday January 14, 2023 @02:00PM (#34382937)
Really just depends on the org, and you’re not going to know until you’re on the inside.
Re:FAA says computer failure was caused by 2 contractors who... by marcosdumay on Saturday January 14, 2023 @02:02PM (#34382963)
Yep, I completely agree with that. It can change from team to team too. Also, it can suddenly change at any time without a warning.
Re:FAA says computer failure was caused by 2 contractors who... by hermitdev on Saturday January 14, 2023 @02:35PM (#34383339)
I think it also matters on what the response to the incident was, in particular the answer to the questions of: who was responsible and how can we prevent this from happening again?

If the answer to the first question is a bunch of finger pointing or the answer to the second is along the lines of "nothing", heads will likely roll.

My first boss as a FTE at a trading shop made a change to a production database outside of process before a weekend. Come Monday morning, production trading systems couldn't come up for market open. We were also an options market maker. He refused to accept responsibility for his actions and denied there was anything done to prevent it. He was quickly behind closed doors in his boss's office. I had to undo the changes he made the week before (hooray for audit tables) as soon as I could. We were potentially liable for a substantial penalty from the exchange for being out of the market, and every minute mattered. Don't know if we ever did get penalized, but he was fired and out the door by 10AM that day.

I've certainly seen and made lots of mistakes over the decades since, but that's the only one for which I've seen someone canned. Response matters.

Re:FAA says computer failure was caused by 2 contractors who... by drstewart on Saturday January 14, 2023 @02:00PM (#34382929)
>Right. Engineer closest to the fault gets scapegoated and fired, new hire gets hired in without any idea what they’re coming into, and the show goes on.

That part doesn’t match my experience at all.

Re:FAA says computer failure was caused by 2 contractors who... by pleb_nz on Saturday January 14, 2023 @02:53PM (#34383530)
You can just about tell what parts of the world a poster comes from when they start throwing the word 'fire' around willy nilly.

Good question though..

Re:FAA says computer failure was caused by 2 contractors who... by KennyBlanken on Saturday January 14, 2023 @03:55PM (#34384085)
You can tell what part of the world a poster comes from when they're smugly pretending that companies still don't have plenty of levers to pull to push you out the door, doing so by making you miserable.

Oh, and the rampant racism and classism, thanks to the standard practice of including a photo on one's resume...