This is very true. I don't know if you're saying that about vaccination providers or anti-vax campaigners (Deliberate ambiguity? I ask because I do that sometime).

While there is a massive difference in evidence supporting these two sides, as I have a mere GCSE grade C in biology, I necessarily have to just have faith in the research methods and licensing regimes that made my 4 Covid jabs and humpteen others.

Not unadulterated faith, but I do, and it is only faith. I can't do a double-blind replication even if I wanted to.

Why? There's no requirement that you get a credential from a particular group in society before being allowed to distrust them. If such a rule really existed it'd be a field day for scammers. For example nobody would be allowed to doubt any claim related to Web3 if they hadn't already spent years writing smart contracts. Or they wouldn't be allowed to decide Tesla FSD isn't safe enough, because they aren't themselves self driving car researchers.

It's really smart to distrust vaccine providers and public health authorities. Having blind faith in them is bad. You don't need a credential to see that, you just have to observe that they constantly make strong claims in favor of vaccines that they later walk back when it's too late, without any consequences whatsoever.

Why do I trust the vaccines?

Because medicine is generally useful and functional.

Because doctors studied at the same university that taught me much of my profession.

Because nations in economic dispute with each other, nations with territorial disputes, even nations at war with each other, still all agree that the vaccines are a good idea.

Faith has no impact on my decision to prefer not to be the guinea pig for experimental gene therapy, that results in micro clotting and turning your body into a spike protein factory.

I have no issue with traditional vaccination, but this is nothing like a vaccination. They wouldn't have needed to change the definition of vaccination if it was.

They wouldn't need to push this 24/7 on every possible platform if it worked as promised. They wouldn't have to tell us that these super rare side effects that every one of my colleagues is experiencing is super rare and nothing to be concerned about.

If you find your opinions align with the mindless masses, perhaps you are among them.

it is not possible for your DNA to be modified by the mRNA vaccines, so it is not gene therapy

and the virus will turn your body into a spike protein factory regardless

This is actually not true - reverse transcriptase is present in your cells, and has been known to add code from viral RNA to your DNA, sometimes permanently.

you are thinking of integrase, which is not present

and there is no primer site on the mRNA for RT to operate

if it was that easy for random bits of floating mRNA to integrate itself into your DNA then we'd never make it to the point of being born

I'm not suggesting that it's normal, easy, or within the everyday functions of a cell.

The parent comment said "...it's not possible..."

It demonstrably is possible, and has happened before in the genetic record of humans.

reverse transcriptase is not produced by human cells, it is simply not present in the cell

integrase is not produced by human cells, it is simply not present in the cell

the mRNA produced by the vaccine does not have the primer site for reverse transciptase to attach

if somehow RT did produce cDNA: it would not have the primer site for integrase to attach

this stuff is taught to 16 year olds

the probability of all of the above happening by random chance is as close to 0 as it is possible to get

and saying "hahaha, so IT IS POSSIBLE THEN, so it is gene therapy!!!" is the level of reasoning and debate one would expect from a small child

As I understand it, a third factor, like an additional virus is usually involved. There are many in your body. They do weird things.

Can we agree that it is not gene therapy and it is also possible for the vaccine to modify your genome in specific cases?

> Can we agree that it is not gene therapy

yes

> and it is also possible for the vaccine to modify your genome in specific cases?

possible in the same sense as winning the lottery 10 times in a row

or suddenly quantum tunneling through the entire surface of the earth and popping out the other side

> Faith has no impact on my decision to prefer not to be the guinea pig for experimental gene therapy, that results in micro clotting and turning your body into a spike protein factory.

I guess fair, it's just the underlying cause for both the faith and your gross misunderstanding of high-school biology that's the same.

13 billion doses administered. If they were one-thousandth as dangerous as you claim, we’d see a helluva lot more problems than we do. But we don’t. You’re jus plain wrong.