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Re:History of Web Browser Engines from 1990 until today by lolinder on Friday January 13, 2023 @01:04PM (#34371469)
Mozilla is hopelessly mismanaged.

The entire Android app was overhauled a while back, dropping functionally and decreasing stability, and has since been pretty much ignored even though it is still missing features and is still painfully clunky and prone to crash. The developer tools on the desktop app were ahead of Chrome but have stagnated, and they're slow to adopt new standards, but they somehow find time to add things no one asked for like Colorways and a VPN.

I want Firefox to get its traction back, but it's hard to cheer for Mozilla or blame Google when I see them twiddling their thumbs like this.

Re:History of Web Browser Engines from 1990 until today by bbarnett on Friday January 13, 2023 @02:10PM (#34372415)
I want Firefox to get its traction back, but it's hard to cheer for Mozilla or blame Google when I see them twiddling their thumbs like this.

I don't think this will happen. I think they will just fade away. They are completely dysfunctional now.

Some say it is due to the whole woke movement, and it may be, but really, I see it as due to politics.

By that I mean, politics is nothing but divisive, and if you introduce it into a company, as a corporate culture, you're going to regret it.

IMO, work is where you leave religion, and politics(the other religion) at home.

And Mozilla is paying the price for letting it in.

Re:History of Web Browser Engines from 1990 until today by mistrial9 on Friday January 13, 2023 @03:09PM (#34373204)
> due to the whole woke movement

yes, and forcing out there reasonable CEO for a purity test, long ago.. HELO BRAVE

Re:History of Web Browser Engines from 1990 until today by mysteryalias on Friday January 13, 2023 @06:43PM (#34375486)
Brave is just reskinned Chrome and the current CEO hates gay people. You do you buddy.
Re:History of Web Browser Engines from 1990 until today by tristan957 on Friday January 13, 2023 @08:00PM (#34376100)
Their point is that Eich was forced out of Mozilla on what the user claims was a "purity test". Then he went to start Brave and no one seems to care, hence it was all just theater while he was at Mozilla.
Re:History of Web Browser Engines from 1990 until today by _emacsomancer_ on Friday January 13, 2023 @08:23PM (#34376249)
Brave is more than reskinned Chrome. It's one of the only Chromium-based browsers that's both open-source and has some security/privacy features. (E.g. anti-fingerprinting things, an adblocker based on uBlock Origin (rewritten in Rust) built-in (and not as an extension, so will not be limited by Manifest V3).)

Eich is not unproblematic, of course (in addition to the anti-gay marriage issue, there is/was also issues of 'covid-scepticism'[1]). And the cryptocurrency stuff in Brave is uninteresting to me (fortunately it's opt-IN though and not opt-out).

And I still think, on the desktop at least, Firefox still has advantages over Brave (and even more so over other Chromium-based offerings).

[1]: https://web.archive.org/web/20230104010454/https://www.nytim...

Re:History of Web Browser Engines from 1990 until today by kome on Friday January 13, 2023 @03:15PM (#34373274)
"The entire Android app was overhauled a while back, dropping functionally and decreasing stability"

And yet it's the only mainstream browser for android that support, natively, ad-blocking. Using chrome on mobile is a joke.

Re:History of Web Browser Engines from 1990 until today by mattlondon on Friday January 13, 2023 @04:00PM (#34373823)
Edge on android blocks ads.
Re:History of Web Browser Engines from 1990 until today by rejectfinite on Saturday January 14, 2023 @06:03AM (#34379249)
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