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Re:The UK is wasting a lot of wind power by ErikCorry on Thursday January 12, 2023 @06:30PM (#34361775)
Strangely there already is one between Scotland and Wales and two more are proposed (see the article).

I suspect NIMBYism is a big part of the explanation. Airborne AC links are efficient but ugly. Underwater AC links are tolerated by Nimbies, but inefficient. So you end up with underwater HVDC links.

Re:The UK is wasting a lot of wind power by Reason077 on Thursday January 12, 2023 @06:49PM (#34361993)
HVDC links are more efficient than terrestrial AC transmission lines over long distances.
Re:The UK is wasting a lot of wind power by ErikCorry on Friday January 13, 2023 @02:27AM (#34364890)
Also a lot more expensive. The UK is not big enough for it to make technical sense.
Re:The UK is wasting a lot of wind power by mschuster91 on Friday January 13, 2023 @04:46AM (#34365754)
> The UK is not big enough for it to make technical sense.

The UK market maybe not, but the UK could make a truckload of money selling their wind power to France to aid their old, barely running NPPs.

Re:The UK is wasting a lot of wind power by ErikCorry on Friday January 13, 2023 @07:26AM (#34366805)
And that is happening. There are multiple cross channel HVDC lines and more on their way. These make perfect sense.
Re:The UK is wasting a lot of wind power by Reason077 on Friday January 13, 2023 @05:48AM (#34366136)
The equipment costs (eg: converter stations) for an HVDC link are more expensive, but by running under the sea you save on a lot of other costs (ie: civil engineering, land acquisition, etc).

Building any new transmission line through densely-populated England is extremely expensive. Even if you can secure the necessary land and wayleaves, nobody wants them running near their house and spoiling the views, so significant segments have to run underground in tunnels, greatly increasing costs.

Besides, the UK is not that small when linking England and Scotland. The proposed Eastern Green Link 2 (EGL2) is 440 km long: there are many existing HVDC connections much shorter than that around the world!

Re:The UK is wasting a lot of wind power by ErikCorry on Friday January 13, 2023 @07:27AM (#34366819)
Most of these issues are not technical so I stand by my assessment.
Re:The UK is wasting a lot of wind power by ccalloway on Friday January 13, 2023 @05:49AM (#34366142)
You are absolutely right. Building pylons through much of England means dealing with highly organized NIMBYism - from people who care a lot about their local 'environment' but very little about catastrophic floods or fires in other countries, and highly opportunistic landowners who can name their price for use of their land.
Re:The UK is wasting a lot of wind power by xorcist on Friday January 13, 2023 @06:58AM (#34366620)
DC links are usually built to better control frequency in grids.

They are expensive things, and typically not something left to popular vote.