Re:Tell HN: Farewell letter of M. Hosseini – executed 01.02....
by erenyeager on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @08:26PM
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> What else do you need to know?
I do not base my beliefs in these matters on assumptions, I require proof. He may have been denied fair trial, but he may also have committed murder. He says he is innocent, but the court finds a different view; what more is there to say?
> She was not the first innocent to be cut down in the flower of her youth.
so how did she really die? Beaten? Strangled? Tortured? Heart condition? The details of the case matter because if people just protest on assumptions, they may not reflect the reality of the case (see George Floyd in the US who also had precipitating factors of substances in his body in addition to suffocation). That is, the upheavals and outcry could be based on a lie, and when a society accepts a lie as the basis for “change” they’ve already caused great harm.
> Sufficient and frankly a demanding reason to motivate any sensible human being
How about maintaining peace instead of agitating the authorities? There is so much worse that can result, innocents will die, violence will be unleashed in society, and what are the odds of success and who will repatriate the losses? Rebellion for the sake of rebellion is hardly a good reason.
Anyways, I don’t find sympathy with people who want to undress themselves. Who are in much better conditions than many worldwide. Not that the government is any better for its violence. But it is true some of the “protesters” also behave violently.
> We Iranians have made a determination. The Islamic Republic must go
Which “we”? To suppose to speak for the entire country, is quite presumptuous and silences voices that have not been amplified in popular media. Does “we” seek to impose their own power on the other people of Iran? Replicating the regime “we” sought to replace.
> whose heroic struggle you seek to diminish and discount:
I don’t believe taking off a hijab is heroic. This is a distortion picked up in social media, crafted by both internal and external influences that seek to paint a propagandistic narrative.
I can sympathize with innocent people being harmed and killed. I can sympathize with the anger at oppression. But I do not find sympathy in throwing a country into chaos and endangering countless lives, for little positive potential impact.
I do not base my beliefs in these matters on assumptions, I require proof. He may have been denied fair trial, but he may also have committed murder. He says he is innocent, but the court finds a different view; what more is there to say?
> She was not the first innocent to be cut down in the flower of her youth.
so how did she really die? Beaten? Strangled? Tortured? Heart condition? The details of the case matter because if people just protest on assumptions, they may not reflect the reality of the case (see George Floyd in the US who also had precipitating factors of substances in his body in addition to suffocation). That is, the upheavals and outcry could be based on a lie, and when a society accepts a lie as the basis for “change” they’ve already caused great harm.
> Sufficient and frankly a demanding reason to motivate any sensible human being
How about maintaining peace instead of agitating the authorities? There is so much worse that can result, innocents will die, violence will be unleashed in society, and what are the odds of success and who will repatriate the losses? Rebellion for the sake of rebellion is hardly a good reason.
Anyways, I don’t find sympathy with people who want to undress themselves. Who are in much better conditions than many worldwide. Not that the government is any better for its violence. But it is true some of the “protesters” also behave violently.
> We Iranians have made a determination. The Islamic Republic must go
Which “we”? To suppose to speak for the entire country, is quite presumptuous and silences voices that have not been amplified in popular media. Does “we” seek to impose their own power on the other people of Iran? Replicating the regime “we” sought to replace.
> whose heroic struggle you seek to diminish and discount:
I don’t believe taking off a hijab is heroic. This is a distortion picked up in social media, crafted by both internal and external influences that seek to paint a propagandistic narrative.
I can sympathize with innocent people being harmed and killed. I can sympathize with the anger at oppression. But I do not find sympathy in throwing a country into chaos and endangering countless lives, for little positive potential impact.