We need a lot more electricians if we’re going to electrify everything

Re:We need a lot more electricians if we’re going to electri... by quickthrowman on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @01:05PM (#34341967)

> You do want your refrigerator on one. What when your mom is putting a metal saucepan into the fridge of leftovers, knocks and smashes the lamp inside, and the AC lamp power supply kills her though the metal saucepan?

Your fridge scenario is.. fantasy. What is the path to ground? There isn’t one.. you can hold onto a live phase conductor all day and not get shocked if the circuit isn’t completed.

Refrigerator only needs a GFI if it is within a certain distance of a sink.

> What when a baby puts a fork into an electrical outlet in the living room?

The NEC requires tamper-resistant receptacles in all dwelling units.

Also re: flooding and GFIs, all basement receptacles need GFI protection due to flood risk.

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Re:We need a lot more electricians if we’re going to electri... by mixmastamyk on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @01:49PM (#34342680)

Yes, the pan would complete the circuit. Not to mention the whole scenario being extremely unlikely.

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Re:We need a lot more electricians if we’re going to electri... by jly on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @04:12PM (#34344925)

> Refrigerator only needs a GFI if it is within a certain distance of a sink.

Not anymore. NEC 2023 requires GFCI for every 120 or 240V outlets in the kitchen, regardless of their location or proximity to the sink. This was a big change.

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Re:We need a lot more electricians if we’re going to electri... by quickthrowman on Thursday January 12, 2023 @12:20PM (#34357108)

Oh I wasn’t aware of that change, my state hasn’t adopted NEC 2023 yet and I haven’t received my NEC 2023 code book from my employer yet.

It’s a negligible cost change for new construction, AFCI breakers and AFCI/GFCI breakers are the same price, at least for Square D 120v 15A 1P

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