Re:Tesla Vehicle Safety Report
by bryanlarsen on Tuesday January 10, 2023 @03:57PM
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Better a false positive (phantom braking) than a false negative (not braking when it should). I imagine they're all tuned with this in mine.
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Are you kidding me? One of the several times autopilot tried to kill me was when it randomly tried to flat stop on I-80 with a semi driver following me. No way he could have stopped in time if I hadn't disengaged and slammed on the accelerator.
(Absolutely no reason to stop and no weather or afternoon sun for confusion. My best guess is that flaky vision systems thought a semi truck was entering my lane, but I really don't know.)
Re:Tesla Vehicle Safety Report
by bryanlarsen on Tuesday January 10, 2023 @07:25PM
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But it didn't kill you. If you had a false negative, that means it failed to stop when it should have, and that almost definitely would have caused an accident. False negatives are more dangerous than false positives. Both can be dangerous, but false negatives are worse.
All AEB's from all manufacturers have a certain amount of phantom braking, but non-Tesla AEB are well studied and definitely save lives.
GP gave an obvious example of a false positive. I don't why them thinking fast enough to save their life neglects the point...
I think the current state of Tesla's self driving is more dangerous in this respect than I am.
Re:Tesla Vehicle Safety Report
by CamperBob2 on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @01:08PM
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