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Re:Years in Common Lisp: 2022 in review by TurboHaskal on Tuesday January 10, 2023 @09:09AM (#34325035)
Unfortunately the average developer is alienated beyond repair. A significant % of developers make a living working on tools to address the lack of interactivity and poor feedback loop of mainstream languages, and actual interactivity is touted as a bad practice by the TDD fundamentalists.

edit: My advice to young and overly curious developers: never talk about weird languages at work. I don’t know what’s with it but you’ll trigger a visceral and almost violent reaction from the average developer who thinks their livelihood is in danger. It’s just not worth it. And no this isn’t fixed with joining a FAANG.

Re:Years in Common Lisp: 2022 in review by User23 on Tuesday January 10, 2023 @09:45AM (#34325575)
> and actual interactivity is touted as a bad practice by the TDD fundamentalists

That’s funny, because what drew me to doing TDD in Java was how much I could treat the test runner like sending the current form to the REPL in SLIME.

Re:Years in Common Lisp: 2022 in review by p_l on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @08:00AM (#34337885)
Funnily enough, TDD comes out of very interactive environments of Smalltalk