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Re:I measured the pollution from my gas stove by jeffbee on Monday January 09, 2023 @05:38PM (#34317436)
Cities are able to take this action because they know they have no intention of building anything ever again, so the impact to actual residents and voters is zero. I should know: my city of Berkeley was the first to ban them. It is pure greenwashing.

The final insult is single-family home construction and remodel can elect to use gas if they want.

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Re:I measured the pollution from my gas stove by econonut on Monday January 09, 2023 @05:49PM (#34317597)
That's fine for your city, but sucks for those of us living in the midwest. I can't speak for every city, but our growing city likes to model its policies after CA policies, so we get thousands of newly built electric-only homes & apartments.
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Re:I measured the pollution from my gas stove by jeffbee on Monday January 09, 2023 @06:04PM (#34317838)
Well, if your city adopts every dumb idea from Berkeley, that's on you guys. I thought everyone knew we are nuts.
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Re:I measured the pollution from my gas stove by midoridensha on Tuesday January 10, 2023 @12:58AM (#34321060)
>but our growing city likes to model its policies after CA policies

Who elects your city leaders? This is your own fault. If your city liked to model its policies after Russian policies, or Saudi Arabian policies, would that be those countries' fault?

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Re:I measured the pollution from my gas stove by dragonwriter on Monday January 09, 2023 @06:40PM (#34318143)
> Cities are able to take this action because they know they have no intention of building anything ever again,

California cities don’t, since their choice now is between “approve enough new housing voluntarily” or “lose the ability to reject new housing entirely”.

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Re:I measured the pollution from my gas stove by jeffbee on Monday January 09, 2023 @06:48PM (#34318221)
Get back to me as soon as any "builder's remedy" project breaks ground.
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Re:I measured the pollution from my gas stove by asveikau on Monday January 09, 2023 @07:03PM (#34318374)
If the threat of using the builder's remedy successfully gets cities to change behavior, isn't that working correctly despite no "builder's remedy project breaking ground"?

I'd imagine also that these things take years. First for the law to take effect, since that can't be immediate, and then for any enforcement of it to go through the courts.

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Re:I measured the pollution from my gas stove by asveikau on Monday January 09, 2023 @06:40PM (#34318145)
It's hard for a regulation like this to be retroactive. There are a lot of gas stoves in use. It's not feasible to replace them all, for various reasons. So, restricting to new construction makes sense.

Most bay area cities need to build more than they are, but I know that new construction in Berkeley is not zero. One of the last times I was there, I saw some new apartments going up.

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