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Re:Social contagions can cause genuine illness, and TikTok m... by mensetmanusman on Monday January 09, 2023 @08:56AM (#34310335)
In regards to 1., the axioms of the value of a life are inherently illogical, because they are axioms, so I would be hesitant to disregard having the argument, since a good argument can refine your position on any topic.

For example, I have met utilitarians that have little regard for life that has no economic value, but they are upfront regarding the value of life in economic terms, versus inherent value which a decision one has to make that is inherently illogical.

Re:Social contagions can cause genuine illness, and TikTok m... by haswell on Thursday January 12, 2023 @07:29PM (#34362363)
If I could rewrite that sentence, I’d replace “illogical” with “fictional”.

My point is that I have little interest in arguing against the claims in a book or books, written by men, claiming to be the infallible word of whichever god or gods in a discussion about an individual’s bodily autonomy and pursuit of personal well-being. I think it is as irrelevant as invoking any other random work of fiction.

Someone else can have that argument and I’ll eat popcorn, but as a child and survivor of a dogmatic and traumatic religious upbringing that taught me to hate my own sexuality, I have no interest in wasting more energy on it.