Re:Doctorow: Social Quitting
by 411111111111111 on Monday January 09, 2023 @06:39AM
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Bubbles are definitely an issue, but the original point is pretty far off from reality as they said.
You'd have to respond to every second comment if people held to the 2:1 ratio on the internet.
Re:Doctorow: Social Quitting
by ogre_battle on Monday January 09, 2023 @08:18AM
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What's the ratio? 1:9:90? or something along those lines.
1:2 is amazing engagement.
If the response counts as a comment, then that ratio is impossible to fulfill - although in that interpretation it'd be impossible to fulfill IRL as well, so I don't think we can use comments vs replies as a metric, unless you only count root-level comments as "talking" and sub-root comments as "listening", in which case I feel like the ratio does hold true
Re:Doctorow: Social Quitting
by CaptainFever on Monday January 09, 2023 @06:55AM
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Social media algorithms might not be the only thing keeping people within a bubble. For example, Fediverse instances or Reddit communities (infamously known for the “hivemind”).
People might simply be tribal in nature, however this doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t improve.
I wonder how much opinion was an important factor in societies before internet. To an extent you can go to a pub every night, full of people you disagree with yet you all live in the same area / space ..
I often feel human groups are not about high level ideas.. but emotional flow and basic needs. Most of the time we don't discuss to debate but to share feelings and share needs.
If you talk about anything in a public place, say in a pub, it won't take long to hear a differing opinion.
We've worked so hard to create closed communities on the Internet, that you're not exposed to opposite ideas unless you work hard at looking outside your bubble. Social media with its very smart recommendation algos will try to keep you firmly in your echo chamber.
Yeah, you can listen on the Internet too, but you often only hear the choir.