Re:Excess Management Is Costing the U.S. $3T Per Year (2016)
by karmelapple on Sunday January 08, 2023 @01:01AM
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This comment made me think of the book The Goal, by Goldratt. I wonder who at the company was tasked with clarifying what the ultimate goal was to every employee? And if everyone measured success in that way?
Re:Excess Management Is Costing the U.S. $3T Per Year (2016)
by SergeAx on Sunday January 08, 2023 @03:43AM
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In another great, although fiction book "Cryptonomicon" I found a life-changing passage about the ultimate raison d'être of every commercial company in the world: "increasing the value of shareholders". That goal can be achieved by paying dividends or by increasing company's capitalization. Those are still too abstract metrics for most of ICs, so as a manager I am using proxy metrics of revenue and new clients.
Re:Excess Management Is Costing the U.S. $3T Per Year (2016)
by bitcharmer on Sunday January 08, 2023 @05:01AM
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Such a bizarre comment to make.
Not all work in an enterprise yields revenue. Security or compliance or HR are great examples of that. Also, very often work that you do doesn't bring immediate benefits. They are usually deferred by months or sometimes even years.
Re:Excess Management Is Costing the U.S. $3T Per Year (2016)
by SergeAx on Sunday January 08, 2023 @05:07AM
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But we are talking about soared productivity. It cannot left key company metrics unaffected, otherwise what kind of productivity it is?
Re:Excess Management Is Costing the U.S. $3T Per Year (2016)
by bitcharmer on Sunday January 08, 2023 @06:04AM
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Not sure how to respond to that. You just dismissed everything I said without addressing it.
Re:Excess Management Is Costing the U.S. $3T Per Year (2016)
by SergeAx on Sunday January 08, 2023 @06:09AM
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Okay. If not revenue or customers acquisition, there should be some other productivity metrics. Because lines of code committed or tickets moved to the right on Kanban board are definitely not those metrics
Re:Excess Management Is Costing the U.S. $3T Per Year (2016)
by Pmop on Sunday January 08, 2023 @08:11AM
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Obviously not the OP but are you trying to imply that mgmnt do sale's work? They don't. The sales people are important, a company can hardly function without them. Meanwhile you can fire all of the management and the company will still work just fine, if not better.
Re:Excess Management Is Costing the U.S. $3T Per Year (2016)
by SergeAx on Sunday January 08, 2023 @11:45AM
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Sales people need something to sale. Soaring productivity should mean delivery of lots of features wanted by prospective clients, thus an occasion for sales people to contact those prospects, pitch them those features and close a lots of deals.
> Meanwhile you can fire all of the management and the company will still work just fine, if not better.
I wish you could try it and survive to tell the world that story.
So, the revenue that year increased dramatically? How many new clients your company acquired?