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Re:Study Finds That Buttons in Cars Are Safer and Quicker to... by Eisenstein on Saturday January 07, 2023 @03:22PM (#34292307)
> I dont know if that is the shining example of government protection, nor the indictment of free markets you think it is.

Notice I mentioned the FDA -- which has as a mandate to ensure safe food and drink, not the local official who had no such mandate and powered monied interested held more sway than poor dead infants. You use a local official as evidence of a regulatory body in a time when local officials were actors for industry -- and expect me to think you spent more than 3 seconds thinking critically about that?

> I am small l libertarian

And, like most libertarians, (who are not just closet fascists calling themselves libertarians because libertarians don't bother to exclude them), your definition of 'extreme' could be anything from 'driver's licenses' to 'not being able to sell your own children', so who knows what line you stand on. Whatever it is, I would like you to remove yourself from all of the government protections you disagree with and see how long you and your libertarian friends last. Hint -- it has been tried numerous times, and always ends in hilarity and completely predictable outcomes.

Just two off the top of my head...

* https://boingboing.net/2020/10/19/libertarians-exit-pursued-...

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Seasteading_Institute

Re:Study Finds That Buttons in Cars Are Safer and Quicker to... by phpisthebest on Saturday January 07, 2023 @04:59PM (#34293353)
>>like most libertarians, (who are not just closet fascists calling themselves libertarians

Facism which is a totalitarian collectivist ideology has nothing in common with libertarianism, your assertion there are closet fascist calling themselves libertarians is plainly false most likely because you misapply the term fascist due your are probably complete ignorance of both. Which is common today where alot of people that seem to have world view closely aligned with classic fascist leaders proclaim themselves to be "anti-fascist" unironically.

>so who knows what line you stand on.

well if you had read my entire comment instead of cherry picking the quote you wanted you find where my line is.

Re:Study Finds That Buttons in Cars Are Safer and Quicker to... by Eisenstein on Saturday January 07, 2023 @05:14PM (#34293507)
I never applied the term fascist or defined it. I stated an opinion in line with m experiences. I happen to know what a fascist is -- in fact just last week I re-read Umberto Eco's Ur Fascism[0]; it is brilliant and I suggest you check it out.

> well if you had read my entire comment instead of cherry picking the quote you wanted you find where my line is.

I read your comment -- you used the term 'extreme' and then said the government over-regulates, and you want 'minimal safety' regulations. However, your arguments do not line up with this, since I have read your comments and they are quite a bit more on the 'let corporations do what they wish' than 'the government is too damn nanny-state'.

So, forgive me if I don't take you at your word. My experiences with libertarians has led me to just assume that your 'line' is whatever you feel like, that benefits you, until it doesn't anymore, then you are on the other side of it.

[0] https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1995/06/22/ur-fascism/