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Re:Not-Such-Better-Living Through Chemistry by vidarh on Saturday January 07, 2023 @01:57PM (#34291334)
Antibiotics would be far worse to deregulate than even the hardest recreational drugs, because widespread flawed use would harm other people at acale by promoting drug resistent strains.

I think legalisation ought to be driven largely evidence of harm, not just by abuse of the drugs, but systemic harm both of legalisation vs. criminalization, but with a reasonably high level of ability to take personal risk.

E.g. for drugs where we know addiction drives crime, even fairly substantial harm from the drug itself might still mean legalisation is a net gain. Heroin might fit in that bucket (a small UK trial with prescribing it saw offending rates for those in the trial drop dramatically, and so reducing net harm to society).

At the same time high risk may justify a high degree of regulation of specific drugs to ensure people are at least aware of the dangers, and aim to reduce recruitment.

Re:Not-Such-Better-Living Through Chemistry by nobody9999 on Saturday January 07, 2023 @05:15PM (#34293514)
>Antibiotics would be far worse to deregulate than even the hardest recreational drugs, because widespread flawed use would harm other people at scale by promoting drug resistent strains.

That particular cat is well out of the bag as, according to the WHO[0], full 1/3 of antibiotics users obtained their last doses without a prescription. In fact, many countries (unlike the US) don't require prescriptions for antibiotics.

Which really sucks, as antibiotic resistance will (barring some serious scientific breakthrough(s)) likely be a huge problem over the next century or so.

I don't have a good answer WRT that, but agree with much of what you wrote.

[0] https://www.who.int/europe/news/item/21-11-2022-1-in-3-use-a...

Re:Not-Such-Better-Living Through Chemistry by GoldenRacer on Sunday January 08, 2023 @05:22PM (#34303906)
And that's just humans using antibiotics. Roughly 2/3rds of antibiotics are used for veterinary purposes.

But yes, we need to be much more careful with how we use antibiotics than we currently are and I also don't have a good answer for how that happens.