C++ vs. Rust Build Times

Re:C++ vs. Rust Build Times by DrBazza on Friday January 06, 2023 @10:57AM (#34276148)

I've said many times that C++'s tooling is a dumpster fire of epic proportions. No-one that wants to use the language should have to spend a non-trivial amount of time a) downloading a build system in addition to the compiler and linker, and b) reading the docs of the build system they've chosen.

It's the compsci version of Hawking's quote 'for every equation I include in this book, I'll lose half the readers' (or words to that effect). For every extra line of setup, you lose some of your potential audience.

Just setting up C++ tooling requires non-beginner level skills.

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Re:C++ vs. Rust Build Times by jonstewart on Friday January 06, 2023 @12:36PM (#34277983)

Concur. I love C++ and I hate this aspect of it so much.

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Re:C++ vs. Rust Build Times by zabzonk on Friday January 06, 2023 @01:03PM (#34278449)

> setting up C++ tooling requires non-beginner level skills.

I've taught C++ beginners to use a C++ compiler, linker and make with no problems, and earned quite a bit of money while doing so.

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Re:C++ vs. Rust Build Times by SleepyMyroslav on Friday January 06, 2023 @03:02PM (#34280191)

You are right. I have spent a lot of time tinkering with build systems on sizeable projects to be sure I do not want to do it myself.

But why would any beginner do not do the same thing that Rust offer: use one written by someone else? It does not have to be special or even open. Beginner needs one that they can learn from other people around them. Most of corporate ones are not even documented. People onboard by watching over a shoulder how it works xD.

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