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Re:Ask HN: What sub $200 product improved your 2022 by OJFord on Friday January 06, 2023 @09:27AM (#34274903)
Interesting, where (country) do you live that that's the case?

Honestly, if they didn't put separate fan temperature/time on the back of stuff (increasingly they don't actually, more and more I'm seeing fan only) I'd honestly never have known anything else existed. I've never lived anywhere with one, didn't see any for sale when I bought one (to replace broken one) a couple of years ago. (UK)

Re:Ask HN: What sub $200 product improved your 2022 by UncleMeat on Friday January 06, 2023 @11:20AM (#34276588)
US.
Re:Ask HN: What sub $200 product improved your 2022 by OJFord on Friday January 06, 2023 @07:55PM (#34283710)
I think that surprises me even more, because aren't 'toaster ovens' - essentially duplicating grills/'broilers' - already commonplace? So this trend is a second appliance to partially duplicate something a third, in many cases, already does.

Personally I think I'd rather just replace the oven for one with a fan and grill, reclaim all that countertop, but at this point there is probably just a large cultural factor at play.