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Re:Omg.lol – A lovable web page and email address, just for you by patates on Friday January 06, 2023 @03:56AM (#34272530)
You are mixing human rights and being decent to others with political opinion. It's not politics because they are what people are. There is also a "Men's rights movement", but it's not political to state that you are male.

Stop playing the victim. You are not being objective, you are just passing on an old, dead narrative.

Re:Omg.lol – A lovable web page and email address, just for you by tervly on Friday January 06, 2023 @02:59PM (#34280128)
Which human right does abolishing all female-only spaces come under? As that is the end goal of this movement that starts so seemingly innocently with preferred pronouns.
Re:Omg.lol – A lovable web page and email address, just for you by egeozcan on Saturday January 07, 2023 @09:41AM (#34288356)
If you believe that, you need to take another look what people are actually asking for.

Taking any search for any decency and turning it into "they want to end the world!!" can be done to anything in any part of the political spectrum.

Re:Omg.lol – A lovable web page and email address, just for you by tervly on Saturday January 07, 2023 @10:43AM (#34289034)
This is what is actually being asked for.

The purpose of preferred pronouns is to legitimize the idea that being a woman or a man is an identity rather than a material fact of existence. It's intended to validate the concept of males being included in the category of women.

So, when female-only spaces are made 'inclusive' by admitting such males (i.e. those who want to be women, or who say they are women) then they are no longer female-only spaces. Eventually, if this continues, they will have been effectively abolished.

See also: https://fairplayforwomen.com/pronouns

Re:Omg.lol – A lovable web page and email address, just for you by egeozcan on Sunday January 08, 2023 @04:25AM (#34297479)
Pronouns are not the only way to identify CIS females. I see no harm for exclusive zones, but it doesn't matter what I think, as that's a separate discussion.

The link you posted, summarized and purified from drug references, says pronouns blur senses for males and females, which I also see no harm for. I, being CIS, also declare my pronouns and many others too, which article plainly denies as such:

> Almost without exception, the people who request, or demand, others talk about them using specific pronouns, are asking for pronouns associated with the opposite sex to their own.

LGBTQIA+ people are just people. Some have an agenda like others, some don't. Some take the identification issues to the political arena, some just... are.

Re:Omg.lol – A lovable web page and email address, just for you by TheHappyOddish on Tuesday January 10, 2023 @07:57AM (#34324129)
> There is also a "Men's rights movement", but it's not political to state that you are male.

Absolutely, but there are certain terms used by MRAs that are political. Just as being gay isn't political, but pushing pronouns or wearing rainbows can be.

GP appears to be making a factual statement (these things are often used for allegiance signalling for political groups), whereas you seem to be attacking them personally. You may need to reread the HN rules.