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Re:America needs carpenters and plumbers. Try telling that t... by keybored on Thursday January 05, 2023 @06:02PM (#34268225)
> You're selling your health and body as a tradesman. If you can make the transition to running a trades business, then you're selling your brainpower more than your body.

Selling your brainpower meaning managing the people who will sell their health and body as tradesmen. A minor racket.

Re:America needs carpenters and plumbers. Try telling that t... by ClumsyPilot on Thursday January 05, 2023 @06:04PM (#34268260)
> managing the people who will sell their health and body as tradesmen. A minor racket.

A racket? He just became a 'wealth creator'! How dare you compare a visionary entrepreneur to a pimp!

Re:America needs carpenters and plumbers. Try telling that t... by sdiacom on Thursday January 05, 2023 @06:35PM (#34268576)
I am once again unable to tell whether this is genuine or sarcastic capitalist bootlicking. This website has destroyed my brain.
Re:America needs carpenters and plumbers. Try telling that t... by yamazakiwi on Thursday January 05, 2023 @07:16PM (#34269014)
I'd explain why I think it's definitely one way more than the other but the ambiguity makes it much better.
Re:America needs carpenters and plumbers. Try telling that t... by phkahler on Thursday January 05, 2023 @08:32PM (#34269768)
>> the ambiguity makes it much better.

What ambiguity? A pimp IS an entrepreneur! And in many cases here the investors are pimps - selling teams of people with questionable output to the public via IPO!

Re:America needs carpenters and plumbers. Try telling that t... by FactoryReboot on Thursday January 05, 2023 @10:09PM (#34270470)
Why not both
Re:America needs carpenters and plumbers. Try telling that t... by tenpies on Thursday January 05, 2023 @10:29PM (#34270610)
The beauty of the ambiguity is that you know there's someone on this web site that is 100% serious and believes that all labour is capitalist exploitation.

Then there is also someone that is 100% sarcastic and that if you look at society closely, that exchange is probably one of the least exploitative in present day society. I mean we take the healthiest demographic on the planet, force them to be sedentary for 8+ hours per day, submitting themselves constantly to eye strain, and we make them pay for it. Now that's a racket.

Re:America needs carpenters and plumbers. Try telling that t... by sdiacom on Friday January 06, 2023 @09:00AM (#34274604)
See, I read the sarcastic position and the genuine position in reverse to the way you did. Goddammit.
Re:America needs carpenters and plumbers. Try telling that t... by ClumsyPilot on Friday January 06, 2023 @06:48AM (#34273697)
only true capitalist bootlicking is allowed here.

If you don't like the current breed of disaster capitalism, and the fact that most of your productive output belongs to someone else, you have failed in life and must be a jealous socialist.

If you are successfull and wealthy, you are even worse - Champaign socialist.

If you are actually Schumpeterian, tou are still gonna be called a socialist because they are economically illiterate.

Re:America needs carpenters and plumbers. Try telling that t... by philippejara on Thursday January 05, 2023 @06:55PM (#34268819)
those people are free to work as independent tradesman, many do.
Re:America needs carpenters and plumbers. Try telling that t... by bluSCALE4 on Thursday January 05, 2023 @11:09PM (#34270856)
As with all businesses, there are good and bad people. Personally, I think it's easy to be good: 1) keep learning and using the best materials 2) pay a little more than a persons worth.