Re:America needs carpenters and plumbers. Try telling that t...
by nerdponx on Thursday January 05, 2023 @05:46PM
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This is the cost of not having a social safety net and public services, where everybody pays a little bit and everybody benefits. It's not just the people who are self-employed that benefit. Their customers also benefit from lower prices, because self-employed people don't have such high expenses. Of course, it all gets paid for eventually anyway, but consistently over time, and ideally proportional to wealth and/or income, rather than randomly punishing people who happen to need repair work done.
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Re:America needs carpenters and plumbers. Try telling that t...
by pclmulqdq on Thursday January 05, 2023 @06:03PM
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Their income would be high enough not to benefit from that safety net anyway. You would end up paying the same.
Re:America needs carpenters and plumbers. Try telling that t...
by candiddevmike on Thursday January 05, 2023 @06:19PM
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If the parent comment meant universal healthcare, you'd absolutely see the lack of health insurance premiums reflected in prices. As a contractor, it's definitely a chunk of my rate.
Re:America needs carpenters and plumbers. Try telling that t...
by stu432 on Friday January 06, 2023 @02:58AM
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But universal healthcare is paid for by taxes on people who earn good money, which these people do. The costs being thrown around in this thread are about on par with the UK anyway.
Re:America needs carpenters and plumbers. Try telling that t...
by nerdponx on Friday January 06, 2023 @09:50AM
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I explained that in my post. The point is to distribute and dilute these costs consistently over time and across the population.
Re:America needs carpenters and plumbers. Try telling that t...
by stu432 on Saturday January 07, 2023 @04:43AM
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You miss the point. Universal payer is not the utopia you think it is. People at the bottom may pay less, but people at the top pay more, "distributing and diluting these costs". That results in relatively well earning professions paying high company and income taxes, resulting in identical fees for fitting a socket in the UK (a universal payer society) as the US (a look after yourself society).
Ergo, you've shifted the money around but fundamentally haven't changed anything, you carpenter isn't going to work for minimum wage suddenly because his tax burden won't allow it.