Re:Investors conclude that Tesla is a carmaker, not a tech firm
by politician on Thursday January 05, 2023 @10:45AM
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Can competitors source the raw metals required in sufficient quantities to put bigger batteries in their cars?
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Re:Investors conclude that Tesla is a carmaker, not a tech firm
by elisharobinson on Thursday January 05, 2023 @11:04AM
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not quite, if you bought it in the open market its 10~20% more $ than having a fixed longterm contract. and ICE carmakers usually have one OEM like samsung and Panasonic who have interest in getting best price for each cell . Tesla has inhouse cell production capacity and uses cells from all oems to get the best possible price / cell . This will give tesla a permanent 5% lead (outside of china) in cell pricing.
Re:Investors conclude that Tesla is a carmaker, not a tech firm
by hef19898 on Thursday January 05, 2023 @10:48AM
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Yes. And if Tesla would move to block them from doing so, they would set themselves up for an anti-competition suite of epic proportions in all markets, from the US over the EU all the way to China.
Re:Investors conclude that Tesla is a carmaker, not a tech firm
by JumpCrisscross on Thursday January 05, 2023 @11:04AM
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> if Tesla would move to block them from doing so
Tesla is in no position to do so. They have a strong position in battery assembly, but zero direct presence in extraction or refining.
Re:Investors conclude that Tesla is a carmaker, not a tech firm
by politician on Thursday January 05, 2023 @11:51AM
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The problem of procurement is about access to Lithium and Nickel ores. Telsa has a joint partnership with a Nickel mine in New Caledonia and rights on mining Lithium in Nevada. GM, Ford don't and there is a global shortage, so I don't see them succeeding in battery production long term. If they source batteries from Panasonic, they're buying an inferior battery. If they source from Tesla, that's obviously positive for Tesla.