Re:Microsoft Workers to Form Company’s First Union in the U.S.
by dmitriid on Thursday January 05, 2023 @06:45AM
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> No I want to be served by a Robot, and hope mcd;s l
Ah yes. Let's ignore the reality of the now and dream about this glorious robot future.
> and none of it is relevant and most of them do not work for unions or need unions to get good pay.
Just because you say this is irrelevant doesn't make it so
> every time this happen it has been the person we are looking to hire to bring up the things they want / need, All I have done is passed them to HR or my VP
Me: You, as a manager, and the company you represent have all the power in these negotiations.
You: This is bullshit... I pass this on to managers and the company who have all the power to say yes or no to these requests
Moreover, if a person is already working, and for some reason needs an extended vacation, or an extended sick leave etc. they literally have no power over you and your VP, and your company. It's entirely in your power to deny them that request, or have strings attached to the granting of the request etc.
> It does scale but no I do not expect everyone to be "lucky"
Me: Luck doesn't scale
You: It does scale but I don't expect everyone to be lucky
> nor do I think you can eliminate all bad employers even under the EU level of authoritarianism you can not eliminate them all
The US: employers have almost no responsibility towards their workers. There is no end to cases where employees have no to little protections at all
The EU: even with the worst employer you get your sick pay, your vacation, your overtime pay, ...
You: EU is authoritarian, I'd rather wait for robots
This is why I'm saying that your "me, me, I, me, me, me" makes you completely blind to the world. Not to say anything about how little you know about the world outside the U.S. and your lucky little job.
Ah yes. Let's ignore the reality of the now and dream about this glorious robot future.
> and none of it is relevant and most of them do not work for unions or need unions to get good pay.
Just because you say this is irrelevant doesn't make it so
> every time this happen it has been the person we are looking to hire to bring up the things they want / need, All I have done is passed them to HR or my VP
Me: You, as a manager, and the company you represent have all the power in these negotiations.
You: This is bullshit... I pass this on to managers and the company who have all the power to say yes or no to these requests
Moreover, if a person is already working, and for some reason needs an extended vacation, or an extended sick leave etc. they literally have no power over you and your VP, and your company. It's entirely in your power to deny them that request, or have strings attached to the granting of the request etc.
> It does scale but no I do not expect everyone to be "lucky"
Me: Luck doesn't scale
You: It does scale but I don't expect everyone to be lucky
> nor do I think you can eliminate all bad employers even under the EU level of authoritarianism you can not eliminate them all
The US: employers have almost no responsibility towards their workers. There is no end to cases where employees have no to little protections at all
The EU: even with the worst employer you get your sick pay, your vacation, your overtime pay, ...
You: EU is authoritarian, I'd rather wait for robots
This is why I'm saying that your "me, me, I, me, me, me" makes you completely blind to the world. Not to say anything about how little you know about the world outside the U.S. and your lucky little job.