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Re:Microsoft Workers to Form Company’s First Union in the U.S. by dmitriid on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @08:16AM (#34245164)
Or you end up like Europe. With long maternity leave, paid sick days, overtime pay etc.
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Re:Microsoft Workers to Form Company’s First Union in the U.S. by maxehmookau on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @08:30AM (#34245291)
Posts about unions on HN always skew towards negativity because in the US, unions are seen as bad. (Well done corporate america for that PR coup!)

They often can't see the benefits, which are often large and numerous.

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Re:Microsoft Workers to Form Company’s First Union in the U.S. by bluGill on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @09:12AM (#34245667)
Unions in the US are bad, in large part because of laws written to force things that way. Unions in Europe work different, but we legally cannot have that type of union so there is no point in discussing how unions don't have to be bad.
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Re:Microsoft Workers to Form Company’s First Union in the U.S. by maxehmookau on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @09:26AM (#34245825)
That's not a fair generalisation IMO. Most notably, moves to unionise workers at large retail companies in the US such as Amazon can only be a good thing.

Some are bad, sure. Some unions here in the UK are bad too, but the general principle that unions work to protect workers is indisputable.

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Re:Microsoft Workers to Form Company’s First Union in the U.S. by satvikpendem on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @10:35AM (#34246764)
And much lower wages, no?
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Re:Microsoft Workers to Form Company’s First Union in the U.S. by dmitriid on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @10:50AM (#34246971)
What good is a high wage when you either don't have the time to use it (crazy working ours/short vacations) or still need to spend it on things like medical care?

Not everyone works at Facebook or Google.

A friend of mine works as a data analyst somewhere near Washington, D.C. They still need to spend a week arguing with insurance companies for any medical emergency. Yeah, thanks, no. Keep your higher wage.

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Re:Microsoft Workers to Form Company’s First Union in the U.S. by satvikpendem on Thursday January 05, 2023 @06:31PM (#34268541)
Not sure about your friend but people generally get good healthcare as professionals. And anyway, that should not be the argument either way, universal healthcare is what one should strive towards, which has nothing to do with union or non-union membership.

> Yeah, thanks, no. Keep your higher wage.

Thank you, I will.

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