I have this in my book (not the cursing part). I was worried that only Dave Liddle even knew about Jobs being there, so now I feel better.

It's possible I talked to Jobs without knowing who he was! I talked to a lot of people.

Dave Smith wrote the foreword to my book, and that's his son on the cover, "playing" MazeWar. There's a guy in Seattle with two working Altos in his basement, and that's the real software.