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Re:Solar Panels Reduced My Electric Bill by $2,677 in 2022 by Nathanael_M on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @01:17PM (#34235371)
Sorry, life after 25 years? That's WAY higher than I thought. That's incredible.
Re:Solar Panels Reduced My Electric Bill by $2,677 in 2022 by xenadu02 on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @01:37PM (#34235772)
This is standard now. My REC Alpha Pure Black 400 panels are warrantied for 92% at 25 years.

The degradation is about 0.25%/yr. Assuming no exponential drop-off it would take >50 years to hit 80%.

Essentially no one has had to replace their panels due to degradation losses as of yet (since the vast majority of panels have been installed in the past ~30 years).

Re:Solar Panels Reduced My Electric Bill by $2,677 in 2022 by Filligree on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @01:20PM (#34235443)
Generally you can find the degradation curve in their datasheet, and yes, 80% after 25 years sounds possible. IIRC they fade faster with time, so it might be 50% after 50, but ... that's still pretty good.
Re:Solar Panels Reduced My Electric Bill by $2,677 in 2022 by jeffbee on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @01:30PM (#34235633)
I don't see anything in the NREL data that suggests panel degradation accelerates. Most of the panels in their data have higher initial degradation, then less in subsequent years. This LG panel seems to be getting stronger as it ages: https://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy22osti/81172.pdf#page=28
Re:Solar Panels Reduced My Electric Bill by $2,677 in 2022 by tekno45 on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @01:20PM (#34235446)
you'll need to supplement with some new panels to account for the loss, but each new panel is more efficient than the one you're "replacing"
Re:Solar Panels Reduced My Electric Bill by $2,677 in 2022 by jeffbee on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @01:24PM (#34235526)
The idea that PV panels become trash in a decade is a lie promulgated by oil companies. According to NREL, reputable panels degrade as little as 0.1% per year, which means they will still be above 90% of rated output after 100 years. The trashiest panels NREL has tested degrade at 1.1% per year which would put them at 75% rated capacity in 25 years.

https://www.nrel.gov/pv/lifetime.html

Re:Solar Panels Reduced My Electric Bill by $2,677 in 2022 by Nathanael_M on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @05:19PM (#34238955)
This is very exciting. Does this mean the biggest continuing expense would be batteries if you wanted to self-sustain with solar?