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Re:Python 2 Removed from Debian by dagmx on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @12:26PM (#34234566)
I’m not trying to dispute whether it’s a problem. I agree it’s a problem.

I’m saying that avoiding Python because of it is illogical (to me) because the problems they’re describing aren’t unique to Python, and I don’t think there’s much that doesn’t suffer from it.

Perl is an odd one because, as your comment says, Perl is going 5->7 because 6 was such a disastrous break.

Re:Python 2 Removed from Debian by bloblaw on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @12:58PM (#34235086)
> I’m not trying to dispute whether it’s a problem. I agree it’s a problem.

ack

> I’m saying that avoiding Python because of it is illogical (to me) because the problems they’re describing aren’t unique to Python, and I don’t think there’s much that doesn’t suffer from it.

I don't completely agree, but I see your point. Any interpreted language (or non-statically linked binaries) could (and does) suffer from these problems. I'd like to see Python have a better packaging story...but for now we live with shipping the developers environment (via docker or virtualenv) for running complex Python applications and services.

I will say that *statically linked* compiled languages are able to avoid many of these problems because running these binaries typically only requires the OS (eg, Go, Nim, Rust, Zig, C/C++ when statically linked, Object-Pascal, etc)

> Perl is going 5->7 because 6 was such a disastrous break.

Agree. And they did the right thing by actually renaming it Raku and skipping the version release.

Re:Python 2 Removed from Debian by w0m on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @02:39PM (#34236851)
slight correction >Agree. And they did the right thing by actually renaming it Raku and skipping the version release.

should be >Agree. And they did the right thing by actually renaming it Raku and functionally killing the language.