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Re:Show HN: Sierra, a DSL for building Java Swing applications by jeffreportmill1 on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @10:24AM (#34232535)
The only real problem with Swing is that there was never a version 2. If it had been separated from AWT, updated some of the APIs and given a modern look-and-feel, it would still be relevant today. JavaFX is nice, but it broke too many conventions.

And, of course, Oracle or OpenJDK (or someone) needed to invest in a browser port of the JVM, which is totally possible these days.

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Re:Show HN: Sierra, a DSL for building Java Swing applications by gk_brown on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @11:01AM (#34233129)
Take a look at FlatLAF:

https://github.com/JFormDesigner/FlatLaf

They have done a great job bringing a modern appearance to the Swing components.

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Re:Show HN: Sierra, a DSL for building Java Swing applications by whartung on Tuesday January 03, 2023 @12:44PM (#34234870)
NetBeans switched to FlatLaf, and looks pretty good.

As I understand it, IDEA has done a lot of "Swing Work". I don't know if it's just augmenting existing or creating a bunch of new controls or if they delved deeper. It's just my understanding that IDEA is Swing, but not as we know it. I could be wrong.

NetBeans is pretty much pure Swing.

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